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General Election 4th July ...

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, May 22, 2024.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    After 14 years of lies, corruption and ineptitude I don't much care about the specific local needs of a rural community campaigning for a bypass tbh ...

    ... the whole country is in a mess and I've no faith in this rabble.

    Even if it would hurt me, in my little corner, I'd vote them out for the good of the country.

    And with that I'm off to work, cheers mate.
     
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  2. Grizzled Wanderer

    Grizzled Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    Local issues used to be a handy 'bullshitter filter'. Now that it's deliberately been dumbed down to red or blue, it allows people in it for less than altruistic reasons an easier way in.
     
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  3. COYCS

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    I don't no about the last 14 years, l am still waiting for the Chilcote report.

    Smug the last 24 years have been a disaster on the political front, and whoever gets in l will respect the result
    Not sure anyone can turn the last 24 years of this **** show having much success turning it around.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I'm absolutely sure, it's been an absolute disgrace ...

    ... I could list all the deception, crime and waste but everyone knows it.

    I don't buy this 'they're all the same' argument mate.
     
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  6. COYCS

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    Neither do l, but as a voter, l don't see a stand out party to vote for.
    A man who didn't have Sky as a child, was Sky about when he was a child.
    A man who can't tell me whether a woman can have Penis, a man who looks out of his depth near water, an an egotistical bloke from the local pub spouting nonsense, where the fxxk does that leave me as a voter. TMRLP's Nick the flying brick becomes a possibility.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    The current administration have proved they're unfit for government, too many PM's and Ministers doesn't create efficiency imo.

    If there's not much difference between the two I'd rather choose the one that hasn't been proven liars and thieves tbh.
     
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  8. Blond Bombshell

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    It's the tory get out argument
     
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  9. COYCS

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    Not sure l mentioned the difference between any party or implied anyone liared or stole anything. My post was about my choice of options as l see it.
    I also did not give any indication as to whether or were l might put my cross.
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    No, that was me.
     
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  11. FellTop

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    Well, all manifestos out. Now we start to judge who is offering what to turn the country round. At least we now have the basis upon which to decide who to vote for.

    Time for my spreadsheet to be dusted off so I can do my comparison :huh:
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I'd imagine most people, who'll vote, have already decided, I have.

    The Tory party is shot to pieces imo.

    Sunak is out campaigning mainly by talking to children and people in safe seats, last night was cringing.

    And it's noticeable that few of his colleagues want to be seen with him, they don't want to be seen as a big part of the election loss.

    I really believe there's so much infighting that Sunak didn't dare risk an Autumn election and a leadership challenge.

    I've honestly no idea why he wants the job, I suspect it's the Asian thing he mentioned.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SWGIJ4-Phtw?feature=share

    If it's not a big deal why mention it <doh>
     
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  13. FellTop

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    I dont know how you can choose before you know what you are choosing personally. I dare say that is in part the reason we have a mess of a political system. Folk choosing red or blue.

    I am interested in what the yellows and greens have to say. Also the independants, alongside the two that the media believe are the only two. Otherwise it is a farce in my opinion.

    At this stage I dont know who I am voting for. It wont be tory. They have had their time. The others though start from the same place in my mind. Although I do still have some bitter memories about the last labour government and how they acted. I can only hope they have learned if I decide their policies are the best ones.
     
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    Interesting, although I have no idea if this lad's workings out are correct.

    Screenshot_20240613_142505_X.jpg
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    That's not what I'm doing.

    Whatever Sunak or any of this lot say, in a few short weeks, can't eradicate the last 14 miserable years.

    We were supposed to have control of our borders, forty new hospitals, levelling up, wonderful NHS, etc etc etc.

    Absolutely dreadful administration and fortunes simply wasted or going into the pockets of their friends.

    I don't want coalition, especially if it involves anyone like Farage, so I'll vote for a party that will be in control and therefore totally culpable.
     
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    I'm not sure if it's the same bloke, but that chart was on ITV news this afternoon
     
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    Well I’m not voting Tory in fact I am not even looking at their manifesto, I’ve always wanted a party in with a large majority, nobody else to blame for any s hite they dish up but themselves. So hopefully a coalition is out for me.
     
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    Didn't know this, I see the bbc, itv and all the news agencies missed it to
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    If Labour have a decent majority we can judge them properly and they won't be able to blame anyone ...

    ... unlike the Tories who've blamed Putin, the civil service, Labour, the Lords, the ECHR, lefty lawyers, the French and anyone else who isn't them.
     
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  20. Neil

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    It's kind of irelevant what they promise, if you already know that you don't believe anything most of them say.

    Plus, realistically most people don't have a choice of all the parties else they'd just be wasting their vote. It's a case of vote for the incumbent if that's who you like, else vote for their nearest rival if you want a change
     
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