I thought that was a total car crash tonight for Rishi Sunak, it was like he got caught in the headlights. I think the problem was he took Beth's way of questioning personally, because as I've said before on here, he comes across as a dictator - where as Keir said quite clearly during his spell that he's a listener. Sunak likes to tell people what to do, that's where all this National Service bolloxs has come from, I will tell you what to do, so not only has he wound up the younger generation, he's also pissed off their parents. Rishi tonight got a taste of his own medicine, he tried to dominate in the previous head to head, the format tonight just buried him.
May have escaped your notice but since announcing the GE date Sunak has gone out of his way to be controvertial or stupid in everything he say;s and does. He's taking the piss and preparing to take a back seat in opposition. The thick as **** scouser on GC has posted about 50 memes with Sunak saying he had no Sky as a child, hook line and sinker.
His behaviour is certainly getting worse, so much so I'm surprised the Tories haven't removed him, but doubt they are allowed to do that at this stage, and it would be a disaster if they attempted it. Sunak is just coming across as a total prick and is getting worse by the day, I honestly believe he don't like his methods being challenged, and the audience weren't exactly friendly nor should they be. I think people are coming to conclusions now, it's either Keir or any party that is not Tory if they don't like Keir as leader, where the choice in the past was Tory if you didn't like the Labour leader. I'm not overly bothered if Keir has a few surprises he didn't tell us about if he is elected, he has to do whatever he has to do to achieve solutions. Bit like how I looked at Boris really, it might not be pretty but if it gets brexit done, so be it. Sometimes you have to play ugly, and Keir will certainly be a lot cleaner than the former.
Getting rid of Sunak now is impossible, it would have happened a few weeks back if it was going to happen. Keir Starmer could conceivably be PM for the next 10+ years now. He's morphed the party into his own image and I think that will help him keep people in line, he's a smart guy imo. Right now, polls are all over the place, while it is highly likely going to be an outright Labour majority, I cannot help feel there's a chance it will be a hung parliament.
I'm not overly convinced on the Labour 20 point lead, but tonight smashed it for Keir - yet in 2019 just heard on the news channel, the public were the same towards Keir then, but Boris won. No way is Sunak winning this time, it's just where are the votes going for the undecided if it's not Tory, could it cause a hung parliament, I don't know, I'll leave that to those good with the numbers.
There's so many differences between now and the Boris v Corbyn race. First, Boris was just such a better campaigner, had years supply of goodwill from being pretty popular since he first emerged in politics, he was THE Brexit guy. He also had an unstoppable momentum about him. Corbyn had lost control of his party, had a wishy washy Brexit policy, a pretty poor shadow cabinet (which Keir was a member of) it was quite clear that Boris was going to beat Corbyn in the final weeks of the campaign, it was more a question of it he could have a decent Tory majority. He ended up smashing it. Boris was also so popular amongst the leavers, that despite him denying them the Brexit Party refused to run against the Tories. Now, Sunak has Labour, a resurgent Liberals and Reform UK all gunning for their areas of the country.
This Rishi, Sky TV thing, is like when Theresa May was asked, what's the naughtiest thing she'd done as a child? And she said she'd run through a field of wheat. I doubt many if any of them MPs have a clue what it's like in the real world. They live in a bubble and are so disconnected from the public.
Maybe they should bring in some rules where you are not allowed to put yourself forward as a politician unless you have worked in a private, public company or education/academia for at least 5 years first. Secondly if elected you are seconded from your original position for a period of no more than 2 terms (10 years) and your employer is compelled to give you your old job back on completion.
I think it's actually necessary. In fact I'll take it a step further, I think you should work in the private sector before working in the public sector if that's the career you want. And you should do both before you enter politics if that's the career you want. The reason I say the first is bcos I see far too many ppl in public sector work who've gone straight into it from education and they have little grip on reality. The second I say because politicians should have an experience of both so they understand why both are necessary and they can relate to the challenges and importance of the ppl working in them and what they provide.
I love it when someone, from any walk of life, claims superior knowledge of reality; as if any of us is in a position to say what reality is. All we can say with any certainty, is that reality is seldom what it appears to us to be. This should probably be in the Science thread tbh. Anyway, from the father of Quantum Physics;
Setting up parameters before people can run for office is what the Russian electoral board do and it's so open to misuse that I just don't like it at all. How long do you need to work before we say you are worthy to run for public office, does it need to be a specific type of job? Let people just run imo
That was ****in hilarious when she came out with that. She probs hadn't even run through fields of wheat anyway and likely read it in a Jane Austen novel lol It makes me laugh when these people try and pretend they are just like common man, because clearly they aren't. The ilk of Rishi and Boris are sent to expensive private schools where they are told that they are better than everybody else, the same rules don't apply to them, and they are somehow deserving of their wealth and status. Given connections that lead to top jobs, and they mix in their own circles, a closed shop for the privileged. When they get into politics, these people exist to serve the people who have put them there. Old Etonians who scrub each other's backs, **** the poor because you know, they were given the same opportunities as everybody else and it's hard work that gets you to the top if only you'd try.......
They should also relinquish all ties with other jobs whilst in office No sitting on the ****ing board of directors for a big pharma company and then becoming a health minister ffs Parliament is rife with that ****.
Lol. Having more MPs who have physically worked in private and public sectors for years won't solve this. They will just know more people in industries. Corruption in the public sector is also a thing.
