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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. 123Daveyboy

    123Daveyboy Well-Known Member

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    I have just looked at meaning of “ imminent “ says likely to happen very soon, nothing about “ in the next few days”.
     
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  2. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Mental that people write off a 19 year old kid when they’ve barely kicked a ball but say you’re having doubts about a new manager and you’re apparently a mag :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  3. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    Agree with every word.

    Any other bigger club in this division wouldn’t be going for Rosenior imo.
     
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  4. CR17

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    Some canny tracks but Doddsy shouldn't have been on bass on the front bench!
     
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  6. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    One account on Twitter? <laugh> I’d be staggered if they were in for him, we’ll see.

    You’re desperate for Rosenior mind, what’s so special?
     
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  7. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    @Culinary is making really good points about his reservations. @LD19SAFC less so with the language he's using trying to criticise other fans (i.e. some are "desperate" to defend him etc). Its not helpful. There are plenty of fans who are likewise "desperate" to criticise any decision, and you appear to be one of them most of the time. It goes both ways.

    Personally I've come round to Rosenior on balance. But @Culinary's reservations are playing in the back of my mind.

    Let's see what happens.
     
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  8. TheBronzeBummer

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    I think sometimes you're better off just keeping it simple and saying "missing out on the play offs by 3 points isn't as bad as people are making out", because you're trying to find ways to excuse that aren't valid. A good excuse I'd say would be their luck with their strikers.
     
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  9. Tongester55

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    Apologies, I thought that when you quoted "I’m just playing devils advocate because I’ve literally seethesameshitwith Still, Wicky, Jansenand now Rosenior" it was because you were against them.
    What made you think Still would be a good appointment, apart from the same type of videos there has been similar to all other candidates?
    Now Still is out of the equation, who who you like us to appoint, that is within our scope?
     
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  10. Scout73

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    We could appoint klopp and the same paople would moan about it tho
     
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  11. WorkyTicketFTM

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  12. TheBronzeBummer

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    Another key thing is his character.
     
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  13. TheBronzeBummer

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    Yep. People will sugar coat it. They should have had the manager in for June 1st.
     
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  14. Wayne the Punk

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    Like it did for Dodds?

    You have decided that the graph shows they were building up attacking moves when you have nothing to back that up with, it could have been aimless possession, which we know all about. By the way, I know bugger all about Rosenior, its just your interpretation of that graph isnt necessarily correct, it may be, but its not a given
     
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  15. alcoauth

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    I think there's plenty of positives about Rosenior, he finished 7th last season in the Championship, you can quibble about the quality of players they have or we have but football is about overcoming impediments such as having no striker for 18 months, or playing £10m for a Champions League winger that has 1 assist and zero goals. He's a young coach (malleable, learning) and plays a specific brand of football, I would agree generally you want to speed up the play if you're bottom of a graph like that and I'm sure that is something that is affected by the personnel at the club, if you've got a bunch of skilful wingers with moderate pace it probably doesn't pay to ask them to beat their man all the time. Again, above all of that, he finished 7th which is not a disaster and is exactly what we're looking to do next season.

    Sometimes you can have extensive data on somebody and that turns you off and another candidate comes along with a bunch of u19 games and zero available playing style data and people are licking their lips at that appointment because they read Bayern Munich on the CV. Careful what you wish for.
     
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    Also in reply to the not wanted by a club in and around it, their owner is known to be a nutcase and it was a difference of opinion in style.

    From an Irish lad I know about Hull's owner

    "He’s an idiot Last June he bought Shelbourne over here(my team) who historically are the best team in the country (closest team to qualifying for the champions league lost to deportivo) but the last couple of decades have been tough. Damien duff is the manager last season he got them 4th our best finish in close to 2 decades. the owner was going to get rid of him after that but instead he got bought back out 6 months after buying the club. Duff has us top after 21 games there’s 36 games played in a season"
     
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    I'm desperate? I'm just backing up my point that I think people are treating him extremely harshly. I would like him to be our new head coach yes. But ha'way?
     
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    Were they not just quoting the sun?
     
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  19. LD19SAFC

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    Fair enough, each to their own. We’ll see how he performs if he does get the job.
     
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  20. TheBronzeBummer

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    To put it bluntly, the reason I'd want Maric to come riding in and snatch the job from under Rosenior (supposedly), is simply because he is a promising young foreign coach.

    I want us to find our own man, like the many teams before us. If Bayern have such a high opinion of him, he's gotta be the real deal to a certain extent.

    Rosenior would be the safer option, but I guess if he doesn't work out Kyril will allow Speakman another 6 months at the end of next season to find someone who will...that'll be exciting.
     
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