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VAR vote

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurf, May 17, 2024.

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How would you respond in a vote on VAR?

Poll closed May 31, 2024.
  1. Keep.

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  2. Scrap

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. Keep but change rules/people

    8 vote(s)
    66.7%
  4. Just keep fully automated off sides and goal lines.

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    8.3%
  5. Something else, explain.

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Especially as certain strikers are very good at exploiting this, most obviously van Nistelrooy and van Persie who would lurk just offside waiting to be played onside by defenders dropping back as the ball was played

    And it was always deeply f'n irritating when they scored off the back of that
     
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  2. The Changing Man

    The Changing Man Well-Known Member

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    I think that offside should be based purely on position of feet no other part of the body should matter and if any part of the foot is level with the last defender you should be onside, because it is only once you are beyond the last defender that it can be said that you have gained an advantage. I know that there would still be close calls, but I think they would be less controversial as they would be clearer. I would also have an additional line on the pitch 30 yards from the goal line and you can only be offside if you are ahead of that line.
     
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  3. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    In all my replies I've assumed that the VAR protocol draws the offside line in a place which already allows for the uncertainty in the measurement. If not then it clearly should. But benefit of the doubt isn't mentioned in the Laws at all as far as I can see. It would be a good addition.
     
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  4. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    The frame rate is 50 Hz and the highest likely relative speed of the feet of two players is about 20 meters per second. So they could move 40 cm between frames. But that should be dealt with by choosing the frame which is most favourable to the attacking player. If it isn't done like that then it needs changing. But humans judging VAR can only do it to a tenth of a second at absolute best which is 5 times worse and could mean errors of 2 meters (which have definitely been made in the past).
    Under your proposal what would happen if the onfield decision was offside but the replay showed it was too close to call? Does the VAR award the goal?
     
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  5. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Yes
     
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  6. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    Good!
     
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