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  1. Chesh1recat

    Chesh1recat Well-Known Member

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    My wife is a primary head- she has children who get their uniform basically from the lost property cupboard and they don't take it off because someone else in the family will take it. A family with 5 children, all in one room because the parents were taking in lodgers and the unoccupied rooms were a cannabis farm. These are relatively mild examples and ability or not to buy technology, however cheap doesn't enter into it. As you will be aware, she could tell some horrific stories about poverty, crime and abuse which are sadly too frequent.
     
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  2. originalminority

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    Anyone know if the increase of cases of ASD is better diagnosis or whether it's been the widening of the spectrum? Only a generation ago diagnosis was black and white, children only, they've got it or not. We now have better understanding of the full wide spectrum and includes mild autism, does it include Schizoid personality disorder? Parents must have hope of a mild diagnoses where the child can still be a high achiever?
    We've never had this before so many adults are undiagnosed autistic, you can see this in plain sight if you think about certain peoples characteristics, they've achieved, often married, learned to mask many things, avoided many things. I know a few, I think the iceberg has always been there.
     
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  3. steverico

    steverico Well-Known Member

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    Luckily my kids never had that but I’ve seen videos of kids destroying houses because dad turned off the PlayStation, it seems every kid over 5 has a phone or tablet and they are glued to them, I said earlier even on a lovely sunny day I rarely see kids playing out, such a shame
     
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  4. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    My best mate is absolutely on the spectrum but has never been diagnosed and he's pretty high functioning. But just because he's never been diagnosed doesn't magically make it not exist which is to your point.
     
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  5. Off The Line

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    And what is a 'behaviour problem' as you call it? Behaviour is a symptom, not a cause.

    Shame plays a massive part in parents not engaging. Their responses are often a result of not feeling good enough. Again. Attachment, and probably neurodiversity. Many parents in these situations have had negative experiences with social services. Another system that doesn't have a handle on the role of Attachment.
     
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  6. originalminority

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    I know a few from childhood through adulthood who I now privately place on the spectrum (mild) who have never been diagnosed and would never seek to be, it actually helps to explain their lifelong behaviours and softens my empathy to them for me to better understand, they function fairly well and have many achievements.
     
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  7. Kalman

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    Yeah, I don’t think they do haha. I just don’t want to start a debate about it.
     
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  8. Off The Line

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    Another debate where your main involvement is attacking others, because you're such a 'leftie'?
     
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  9. Kalman

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    The ****’s your problem?
     
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  10. Off The Line

    Off The Line Well-Known Member

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    Your condescending tone about **** you know **** all about.
     
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  11. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I love how I supposed something on here but apparently we have experts who can categorically state something
    Funny
    Interesting read
    https://amp.theguardian.com/food/20...od-system-is-the-leading-cause-of-early-death


    You’ve also explored a connection between ultra-processed foods and neurodevelopmental disorders. What have you found?In 2021, we looked directly at diet quality in mothers and children, and ADHD symptoms and diagnosis. And particularly, the mothers’ intake of healthy and unhealthy foods were both independently linked to children’s ADHD diagnosis.

    That’s not an experiment, it’s just an observation. But it’s very concordant with animal studies and the emerging understanding that the microbes that are in mothers’ guts while the baby is growing, and the microbes that are in the guts of infants when they’re born, not only influence immune development but also brain development. Because people’s diets are so very impaired in the west, we think that that, along with antibiotic exposure and the loss of biodiversity from the food we’re eating, limits the healthy microbiome in mothers and infants. And that might be part of what’s leading to apparent increases in neurodevelopmental disorders as well as mental health problems.
     
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  12. Steven Toast

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    I think it's both; we have a far better understanding of neuroscience now than we did even five years ago. I go off Support Plans and EHCPs in my class as a marker and this is my last eight years of teaching:

    16/17: 1 Support Plan

    17/18: 2 Support Plans

    18/19: 4 Support Plans

    19/20: 5 Support Plans and 1 EHCP

    20/21: 6 Support Plans and 1 EHCP (same class)

    21/22: 6 Support Plans and 2 EHCPs

    22/23: 9 Support Plans

    23/24: 8 Support Plans and 2 EHCPS.
     
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  13. Kalman

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    I’ve said some parents are **** parents and bad people based on my experience of dealing with them, you weird ****.
     
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  14. Howdentiger2

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    The fact you think I don't realise he's taking the piss just proves how stupid you really are ;)
     
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  15. Ron Burguvdy

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    As far as I'm aware 'Schizoid' & other 'Personality Disorders' are totally separate conditions to Autism and other Neuro different conditions.
    Watched a very good documentary awhile ago on Christine McGuineess, model married to Paddy. The have autistic children and as part of the programme, she became aware she is also autistic. The leading experts who worked with explained one of the problems is the 'assessment' is for children and based on what we now understand are stereotypical traits of young boys with disruptive behaviour, therefore skewing results of 'autism' and stereotype of what is autism (including mine).
    A relative of mine was assessed whilst attending University and the health team were using the 'child' assessment for adults as they had nothing else. The diagnosis did not change their life, though explains difficulties they have and the Uni allowed appropriate support (could go off on tangents / back and white thinking etc. Due to finish their degree this year and has already got a job, goes clubbing with friends, gives good eye contact you wouldn't know they have Autism.
    If you / anyone get chance watch the documentary
     
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  16. highpeak tiger

    highpeak tiger Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't this increase your work load drastically?
     
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  17. Kalman

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    EHCP’s aren’t optional.
     
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  18. highpeak tiger

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    I never thought they were, but at some point you must become overwhelmed by teaching students differently.
     
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  19. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    How do you stop these situations and/or protect the children affected.

    British ppl since the 1980s havn't generally liked powerful invasive social services and children's homes, and there's not enough foster parents as it is.
     
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  20. Off The Line

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    I guess attack is your best form of defence.
     
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