I feel like it's easier to fault them from the outside. "Why do they need £200k per week when £40k per week is already way too much"... but there's probably people in Asia saying "Why do Westerners want £150k salary per year when £50k per year is already so much money". I think you can fault people if they move for money and stomp on others, or their boyhood club along the way. If you're a Liverpool fan though and Hull offer you £40k and you're at Blackpool making £20k- there's no conflict of interest there and no problem saying "I'll go for the extra money". For me, I only fault ones who go somewhere immoral for more money, or do an Owen and play for the rival of the team you supposedly love (and go kiss their badge). He even went to Newcastle instead of coming home to get more money.
I didn't suggest they were and ...... you missed the point. I admire Paisley, Shankly and Klopp for giving everything for love of the club and the job rather than putting money first.
Klopp would have been paid a **** tonne to join lfc. 2nd best paid manager in the world towards end of his reign with us. Let’s not pretend he took the job cos he loved lfc, if we offered him peanuts he wouldn’t do it. People can still give eveything for love of the club and still want to be paid well for it - absolutely nothing wrong with that in any walk of life in my opinion.
You're still missing the point. I've never said that Klopp would do the job for nothing and I've never suggested that anyone should. My point is that money hasn't come first. And.... you have no idea what the negotiations over his wage were. The fact he turned down a pay rise, speaks to my point too.
You made this point - always surprised, although I shouldn't be, when players or managers moving to get more money rather than enhance their careers I get the idea of playing moving to Saudi they are doing it for the money but then they’re generally at the end of their careers anyway so not really anything can do to enhance it. Is anyone going to think of ronaldo more if he stayed at United for 3 seasons finishing 7th? But - and maybe I don’t follow closely enough - struggling to think of many managers that putting money above careers. Again ok maybe the Saudi ones, but across Europe I don’t think I could name 1 manager that’s done it. I think you were referring to McKenna going chelsea initially - and I assume you think he’d be putting money first but I don’t think that’s true at all. Ipswich to chelsea is a huge enhancement. Better players, bigger team, European competition, higher expectations. That is a huge enhancement.
If you were offered a job at your company's rival for 50% more money, would you move? I would suspect most people would say yes. Now, it's different if the company you work for is run by family... Or you have an unusually strong emotional attachment to that company. Or you know the rival company practices in some immorality or law-breaking. For me, it's the work-life balance that keeps me rooted. If I were offered more by my company's rival, I probably wouldn't go because I feel stability here and I like the work-life balance where I am. (Plus I feel where.I am values employees More... Our rivals hire and fire like mad, no loyalty to employees ). In this case, more money wouldn't tempt me... ... But back when I worked for a bank's HQ 13 or 14 years ago, if one of their rivals offered me more money I would have jumped at the offer. I hated working there and was glad to leave. Money can and should be a factor, it's only a problem when it's the only factor.
You can't really compare an ordinary person with a football manager or player though. The amounts of money involved don't compare. Ancelotti went to Everton, yes Everton, for £11m a year. Rafa went to China, yes China for £12m (possibly) £17m a year. They weren't going for the money, of course
. Money issues scale up. People are good or bad with money no matter how much money they make. You can make millions and continuously run into debt or not have enough. I guarantee even those making 10mill a year feel like they don't have enough money to do everything and buy everything they want... As obscene as that sounds to you and me. I know doctors making $400k per year who constantly are out of money and bitching about expenses.
I agree with all of that; it's why you hear of ex-players being in financial difficulties after retiring, they aren't good with money themselves and haven't hired a financial advisor. Doctors and other non-footballing high earners should have accountants. I think for doctors it's compulsory, my son has one.
I've probably mention this before... Because it always makes me think of this when discuss players insane salaries. It was decided to study what happens to people who suddenly come into a lot more money. (Probably inspired by how lottery winners end up bankrupt at far above the average rate)... So they gave $x-thousand (don't remember the exact amount 1 or 2k I think) to a homeless person so they could study him. First thing he did was buy a bicycle, and a bunch of alcohol for his mates. The money seemed limitless to him after living off a few random coins and notes he could beg off people. Needless to say he blew all the money in a few months because he thought it was a large sum, he didn't get his life back on track like he thought the money would. What he thought was a crazy amount of money ended up (as you and I well know) being very little money.
He was unemployed… you suggesting that Everton is a step down from unemployment? No obvious jokes please!
