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Off Topic This has to stop - Surely

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  1. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    I will ask you directly, do you think the Isreal response is proportionate? It’s a straight forward question.
     
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  2. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    My answer to your question Ashton is a definite NO as Israel is on a seek and destroy mission until all Hamas fighters, along with the vast majority of innocent civilians, are obliterated. The old adage of not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim still stands strong and from a U.K. standpoint you must do everything in your power to stop the formation of a political wing of the Islamic religion because that single factor would destroy the lives that our grand-parents fought so hard to maintain. There are certain minority populations that will never adhere to the rules of this new found freedom they have been given in their new homes and that shows total disrespect for the country in which they now live. The same problem exists on a much lower level in Canada but nevertheless it is still a big issue to be kept under control going forward. Stop apologizing for wanting to be British and deal harshly with those who want otherwise before it is too late.
     
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  3. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Israel has to reach its military objective of eradicating Hamas terrorist capabilities. Israel has to completely win this war, or the racist evil of Hamas will continue to attack Israel again committing anti-Semitic slaughter as it has done over decades.
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    it was almost a desert now a thriving country.. harmony and collective efforts turned it into a oasis of great wealth both humanitarian and ecological ... able to almost sustain itself ..
     
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  5. Red Alert

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    Comparing Hamas to the IRA doesnt make sense.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Why?, explain
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    It’s not that simple, the killing of civilians and raising Gaza to the floor will breed resentment within the remaining Palestinians. Some other equally extreme group will then take over, and the whole process will just repeat itself.
     
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    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Yes its simple. Terrorist nutcases Hamas launched a murderous pogrom on October 7th against Israel, breeching Israel's border to commit mass murder. Israel has responded to the racist slaughter as any nation would, Israel is securing its border and safety.

    Israel's military actions are to ensure that the program cannot be repeated. Israel is removing Hamas military capability, and ability to rearm itself by destroying its bases, army battalions and hundreds of miles of tunnels and complexes being used for arms storage, missile launching and holding of hostages.

    Some equally extreme ... There are no equally extreme groups, or any alternative political groups in Gaza. Hamas have exterminated their opponents.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    There will be a vacuum and a very resentful Palestinian population , another extreme group will emerge, and the cycle will continue
     
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    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    The Palestinian population includes the West Bank. The West Bank is governed by Fatah. The Fatah that are opposed to Hamas.

    In Gaza the murderous cycle of Hamas attacking Israel cannot continue if Israel removes Hamas ability to operate militarily.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    We’ll see
     
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  12. Red Alert

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    The IRA were not a government. The IRA were catholic and didnt want to kill all Jews.
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    The IRA were the armed wing of Sinn Fein - a political party, who have had aspirations of government in the same way as any political party does.
    You are right in that they were not specifically anti Jewish, but if a Brit happened to be Jewish he/she was fair game.
    They used terror tactics against the people of Northern Ireland as well as the mainland - and even tried to commit an atrocity in Gibraltar, which was foiled by a tip off from the Spanish police.
    They controlled their own communities by threats of violence and intimidation.
    As I see it, the differences are simply the causes - the IRA were seeking to bring about a united Ireland by forcing the UK out of Northern Ireland and the Hamas want the end of Israel - the Jewish state.
    The methods they used are similar - as are their disregard for the people they destroyed
     
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    Batshit crazy Hamas want the total destruction of Israel and want to wipe the jewish race of the face of the earth!! Hamas also want a Islamic state were non muslims cannot live and there would be be no living side by side with non Muslims!!
     
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