Yeah.I suspect Allsopp’s biggest assets were the size of his bollocks and his resilience. Even after a mistake, when he knew he was the subject of his own supporters derision, it didn’t change his decision making. Not sure you can coach that, especially when you suggest Pandur is subject to a meltdown. LR had over half a season with Oscar, and there were no signs of him pressing harder.
Got to disagree re Allsop's decision making. For me he is far to slow to see the forward pass when it is on. Countless times players made unseen runs - not that he was the only culprit as the defender on the ball rarely saw the runners either.
We're going to concede far more goals under Walter, his teams always do, he just works on the basis that his team will score more. Rosie always talked about risk and reward, we're about to see that taken to a whole different level now.
You should take your own advice then because he's already explained a post prior how that could be achieved. Focus passes to the wide players to get you up the pitch quicker, play inside when needed. Instead we sit there with ball at CB waiting for the opposition to charge our last man like a red rag to a bull. We got good at dealing with that, but the problem often came after it, where we took that risk, overcame it, played it forwards one pass, then sideways then back to CB to do it again. Where are the goals coming from when we play like that? Huge possession stats with the majority in our own half slowly trying to get things going before resetting, then repeating is not the way forwards unfortunately.
you act like our players should just stand there closely marked and dont try to move to receive the ball when one of our players takes a goal kick there are potentially 10 players to pass to I think passing to a player who is 8 yards out in front of our goal isnt the best option if our nearest players were 30 yards out on the wing there would be less chance of conceding a goal if they do make a mistake
Yeah that’s a fair point. I was more referencing his decision making when playing short. He is quite good at picking the spare man but I agree picking out the longer ball is a short coming of his
Earlier in the season he did do this very well to be fair to him. His long ball seemed to be less successful as the season went on.
it makes you wonder how we ever achieved three promotions to the Premier League without the benefit of Rosieball - having said that we didn't concede 60 goals either
You act like making a 30+ yard pass is guaranteed to fall to one of our players. The chance of keeping possession falls the further up the field. By that logic the safest way to retain possession is playing it short as 8 yards in front of our goal is in the penalty area and opposition players can’t enter the area. So it’s a near 100% chance of retaining the ball and not conceding. I get it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it but the two teams who have been automatically promoted literally both employ this tactic from goal kicks. It’s worked for them and they’ve stuck with it even when they’ve made mistakes.
Allsop seems as though he is very chilled. At times an asset, at other times it's like he needs a rocket up his arse when we could do with some urgency, quick early distribution etc. I'm not sure his unruffled, take my time approach is going to be to Walter's liking! His decision making certainly changed, and thankfully so, from the Doncaster debacle!! I know it wasn't only Allsop to blame, but he was a massive part of possible the most ridiculous performance I've ever seen (in 55 years of watching City)!! Re. Oscar and pressing hard / harder. We only saw hard pressing in fits and starts under Rosenior. It certainly wasn't anything like our norm. Southampton first half springs to mind, but such examples are outliers. Can't see how it has anything to do with being a reflection on Oscar; can't see for one moment why he couldn't work in a 'harder pressing' set up, he's hardly a Billy Sharp (wtf was that all about!!
The players out wide would normally be marked to force teams into the more compact centre of the pitch, which is why the ball gets played to the player centrally at the back. An opposition player would be expected to move into them to challenge for the ball, freeing up a player out wide. I expect we’ll still see a lot of that. We saw a few times this season that if the opposition decide not to press there then aren’t many options other than to move the ball between the central defender and the goal keeper, and then try and move the ball around the back until space opens up somewhere else. Hopefully, having played that way for longer, Walter will have more experience in getting his team to find that space, as I think Rosie would have done with a few more seasons under his belt.
Ingram was in goal against Donny. I don’t think Ryan was even at the club. Also Oscar didnt play against Saints at home
Re. the keeper. Hell, you are right!! Apologies. Hands held up. Re. Oscar. I didn't say / mean that Oscar played against Saints (I might be losing it, but not that much ... I think!!). I was simply using that as an outlier example of when Rosenior employed a 'hard press' approach.
True, I had my hands over my eyes most of the time. Wrong keeper, right description though (" .... possibly the most ridiculous performance I've ever seen (in 55 years of watching City)!!)
