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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Oliver's Army, Jul 5, 2023.

  1. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    Must say away atmospheres have been poor this season, every time I’ve been anyway. Someone done a tier list of away fans to visit their ground, how much they sung etc and they had us about 16th/17th iirc. Can’t remember which team it was now though.

    Bang on though it’s up to us to create an atmosphere. Too many groans when we first concede, not enough people around the ground bothering to even try and make atmosphere then you have the south stand constantly singing about Newcastle which is embarrassing in itself.
     
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  2. Was Silent

    Was Silent Active Member

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    Talk to any Birmingham supporter and see what comments they have about him.
     
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  3. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    That's not the issue though.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I don't believe that's true ...

    ... no offence.
     
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  5. Was Silent

    Was Silent Active Member

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    What has he ever achieved?
     
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  6. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    Still not the issue.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Paying to go into a football match doesn't entitle you to personally abuse someone or call them out in front of people ...

    ... not paying to go in gives you even less entitlement.

    It's a question of common courtesy.
     
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  8. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    Are you having a different conversation to everyone else?
     
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  9. Was Silent

    Was Silent Active Member

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    The man is a bull ****ter.
    Are you him or one of his lackeys ?
     
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  10. Scout73

    Scout73 Well-Known Member

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    Is this about speakman?

    If so do you think hes done anything good since joining us?
     
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  11. Scout73

    Scout73 Well-Known Member

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    This is spot on
     
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  12. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    No, I'm just someone who thinks it's important to behave appropriately.
     
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  13. Bob the Mackem

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    Oh your right it was a tad to strong, but he was gloating over the deal to get rid[his terms not mine] of Pritchard as a Mowbray man.
    And I just said.
    You yer twat have destroyed what we were starting to work good football great rapport with Tony the players and the fans.
    Now look where we are you are an arrogant fool, who just loves all things your way.
    Well **** you.
    I just finished that sentence when he shouted to Gerry get him out of that seat and remove his guest card.
    Now Gerry is a good friend known him years, rather that work my self I gave Gerry my card and walked out.
    That's what happened.
    I honestly ain't bothered, I'm back with the mad squad in the Vauxies corner.
     
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  14. Bob the Mackem

    Bob the Mackem Well-Known Member

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    I know
     
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  15. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

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    Have to say I'd side with Speakman there. He was right about Pritchard too, he's nowt special on the pitch and seems pretty toxic off it.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    You simply can't have people screaming at the club's top brass with their own personal grudge.

    They don't represent the views of the majority and make us look like uncouth knuckle- dragging loudmouths.

    Mowbray is being made out to be the golden boy whereas, in reality, it was all falling apart, under him, and he was using every press conference as an opportunity to criticise the club paying his substantial wages.

    Pritchard turned his back on the supporters and lost all respect with most of them. There's a campaign to turn everyone against Speakman that's really unpleasant and based mainly on spite.

    I like to think we're better than that and think Charlie Hurley would agree.
     
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  17. Nacho

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    Agreed on every point mate.
     
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  18. Blond Bombshell

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    Your comment about Mogga is interesting. Someone posted earlier the change in style to negative tactics seemed to occur as MD became more involved in first team affairs, something which MD kind of hinted at when doing the pre match press conference. The negative tactics and formations meant eventually the wheels came off Moggas bus. That coupled with the failure to provide a CF led Mogga to start to highlight the deficiencies in his press conference's. This became a downward spiral which ultimately led to him being relieved of his duties. Something I believe was a mistake mid-season and should have been addressed in club. Who to blame for this, and the reasons, in my opinion, lies with Speakman.
     
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  19. Bob the Mackem

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    That's how I see it, would not have been as bad if KS had not tried to show off in front of a big audience.
    He was gloating and to be fair it was unjustified
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree about the timing of Mowbray's sacking although we'd have lost him a month or so later anyway.
    (Perhaps the club had been given info of Mowbray's health issues.)

    That's not my issue tbh. It's just an undeniable fact that random supporters, not employed by the club, shouldn't be calling out club staff because they see them as arrogant.

    The decision to allow Pritchard to leave looks reasonable based on the fact that he'd be leaving now anyway and the fact that he's just been part of the team that's taken Birmingham down. If Speakman were now to suggest signing a 31 year old player, who can barely last 90 minutes, people would be using that as a stick to beat him with.

    There are plenty of people who come into contact with Speakman yet seem quite happy to be at the club. Amad said he'd be pleased to return, Bellingham couldn't get here fast enough, etc ...

    ... whatever the case people can't just decide they're going to influence the direction of the club as if their opinion is the only one that counts.


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