What Brum and Sunderland have in common here is they both binned a manager for no real reason. It’s cost Birmingham dearly, it also stripped Sunderland’s promotion hopes - they’ve been truly shocking since the turn of the year. Managers need time to achieve anything. Ok, if we’re really blowing it next season (bottom 3 at Christmas, say), then maybe we thank Liam for his time, but otherwise it’s generally better to leave well alone.
It was typical football under Rosenior unfortunately. Worst bit for me is half time the Plymouth pundit saying he's surprised with how we are approaching the game, slow, playing out from the back, playing right into their hands. Fantastic game plan Liam
Not too fussed as it wasn’t about today, it happened in previous games. I think we’d have done worse than Sheff Utd if we’d gone up & would have seriously challenged Derby’s points total. We were nowhere near ready, yes, there’s a possibility we could have got some good players in, but there’s still that same chance as it is. I’m glad Birmingham went down, the whole Rooney thing was a disgrace from their owners. Anyway 7th far better than I hoped & next season to come, so looking forward again.
Connolly, Christie, Traoré, Docherty and Sharp will all leave on frees, I’m sure of it. Covil and the likes of Robson will too but they’re u21s. Delap, Carvalho, Morton, Giles, Ohio and Zaroury will return to their parent clubs. Only player/s I’d take back that we have a realistic chance of getting are Delap and maybe Ohio. Carvalho, Morton and Zaroury won’t be coming back and I’d seriously question the sanity of anyone at the club who thinks £4 million for Giles is a good idea. Estupiñán’s played his last game for City, I’m sure. His loan to Bahia should be made permanent if there’s no hiccups. If Millwall want to keep Longman and offer us a half-decent fee, we should take it. We also should be trying to get Woods and probably Sinik off the wage bill as early as possible. Greaves I’m 95% certain will go. Philogene I think is more likely to stay than Greaves but could still go. So we need: A right-back A left-back A centre-back A defensive mid A box-to-box mid Three strikers At least two wingers And that’s just the priority signings, not to mention players to fill any other gaps as squad depth. We should utilise loans but not to the extent we have this season. Having too many loan players in too many key positions is unsustainable and means having to rebuild every season. We also have some players returning from loan like Vaughan, Simons, Smith etc. but they’ve hardly pulled up trees in League 1. They’ve been average at best. Unless they impress in pre-season, I can’t see them having much game time.
Oh well it’s only a game! Irrespective of the WB game, and eventual outcome, I was just hoping to finish the season on a high, good performance and reward to the magnificent travelling support. What we got for whatever reason, despite having the momentum was a poor & disappointing performance, a damp squib, it’s the away support I feel for. I said earlier, overall it’s been a brilliant, exciting season. I never thought we’d make the playoffs, to finish 7th is a fantastic achievement. Yes, it’s all ifs & buts, but been an exciting season for me, just inconsistent. Despite the disappointment of today, one thing I’m sure we can all agree and appreciate is that at least we have our club back, we are lucky/fortunate to have a fab owner, and appreciate where we are as a club at present. Congrats to Plymouth, well played. Safe journey back to the outstanding travelling support. UTT. UTT
Is there any evidence of that Ernie? don’t think Leicester manager not been there long WBA not long Norwich not long Leeds not long
Post-match reaction Plymouth Argyle first-team coach Kevin Nancekivell told BBC Sport: "It was stressful, but that was always going to be the case. "I thought the lads were brilliant today, I thought that was one of our best performances for a few months, especially under the type of pressure that they were under. "To go and produce a performance like that against a team like Hull who are pushing for the play-offs, we’re really proud. I thought we were terrific, so I'm delighted. "We wanted to take the game to them, which I think we certainly did. "We had to defend at times, which against good teams in the Championship you’re going to have to do. "I'm just delighted and relieved to get it all over." Hull City head coach Liam Rosenior told BBC Sport: "It’s a really disappointing day, I think it says about the league that every single team that was battling against relegation won. "It’s a tough league and Plymouth gave so much energy into their performance, they ran, they chased, they tackled. "Maybe we played the occasion a bit rather than the game "There's tears in the dressing room from some of the lads, but I couldn't be prouder. "From where we've come from last season and what we've built there's a bedrock and a real foundation for us to go on and achieve in the long term for this football club."
It's alarming how big a rebuild is needed. Easier to list remaining players who are good enough. Not many at all. I don't get why so many are so optimistic. We have an ambitious owner but it's a massive ask given the rebuild that's needed, (and still with an apprentice manager who's achieved nothing).
It’s a big job this summer - but we are in a better position than last year. You’d imagine Jones, Coyle, Slater, Omur, Tufan, Jacob, Alsopp, Pandur at least will all be with us. That’s a decent start. If Greaves and Jaden do go - that’s more money than last year to spend. We’ve had a season of integrating and getting the best out of Jaden, Carvalho, Delap and Morton. That won’t have gone unnoticed by agents and top club academies. We’ll be a decent destination for young players again. Rosenior has had a year more experience and the players above another year of getting used to the way he wants to play. There’s a lot to do but finishing 7th gives us a much better chance of capitalising next season than at this point last year. Yes it could go wrong, but it could go right. Not worth discussing until we see what happens.
I was quite surprised just how cautious and conservatively they played today. Since the Cardiff game, there seemed to be a positive change. We’ve sacrificed some possession in favour of quicker build-up, braver passing and were generally more direct whilst still adhering to possession football and playing out from the back. We scored three goals a game against Cardiff, QPR, Coventry and Ipswich. Then today, we looked as bad we did against Stoke. Maybe it was nerves or something but we literally had nothing to lose today. It wasn’t a game where we couldn’t afford to lose. It was a game where we needed a win to stand even the slightest chance of getting top 6. A draw or a loss would’ve had the same outcome but weirdly enough, we were more cautious than we were in the previous six games when we really went for it. I don’t necessarily think this was Rosenior’s plan either. Players seemed scared and reverted to playing safely and shied away from the game.
What "bedrock" you daft prick. Any bedrock is about to vaporise before your eyes, starting literally from today! There's only really Omur left that I'm excited about for next season. Realism.
As always Tigress, NAIL-HEAD... and when I reflect through my horror of today, thats what we all have to remember...
