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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

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    absolutely rubbish, we don't need experience, I read it on a football forum.
     
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  2. Nig

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    I wasn't aware they were looking at a replacement.
     
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  3. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Ironic the fella with no experience as a head coach is saying he'd love to do the job but would be put off by the lack of experience in the squad.

    A squad that has far more experience playing football, than he does as a head coach.
     
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  5. Iain

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    Think it's his way of putting his name in the ring but still be able to say I didn't really want it when he doesn't even get an interview
     
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  6. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    We will be making signings to improve the squad in the summer. KLD or the Sporting Director will be bringing in a head coach. These things are facts.

    The talk of the model seems to all come from outside the club these days and I'm pretty bored of it, I'm not sure what it means and if it actually means anything more than a focus on youth.

    John O'Shea can say what the **** he likes, regurgitating the same worn out lines we have heard for a while but what he thinks is roughly about as important as what Titus Bramble thinks.
     
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  7. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    He won't be getting an interview if that's the way he puts his hat in the ring.
     
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  8. LD19SAFC

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    Based on what? We didn’t improve the squad last summer. What makes you so confident we will this year?
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    What makes me confident is that we failed to improve last season ...

    ... surely, unless you honestly believe the club want to fail, you'll be confident they want to improve.
     
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  10. young2077

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    Do football clubs only receive applications for managers via quotes in a newspaper?

    I don't even see it as putting his hat in the ring, if he wanted to do that he would apply via official channels, if its closed to applications with the club approaching their targets surely he doesn't think they sat there thinking "I wish John O'Shea was interested if only there was some way to know! Until we know we will have to push forward witht here other candidates but let's not stop dreaming that O'Shea becomes interested as he is the perfect option!"

    I think they get asked and they answer honestly why wouldn't he say yeah I'd love that job. Just wish they would add "but I'm probably not quite at that level yet!"
     
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  11. LD19SAFC

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    I have very little confidence towards the club currently.
     
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  12. Dave_39

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    that my worry no matter who we get as head coach they will have hands tied and be left short on what we need
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

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    I don't get this tbh.

    What is it you think KLD is there for if it isn't to progress and get to the PL, for whatever reason?
     
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  14. Dave_39

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    we had a great chance last season if got a striker but chose not too will we get a better chance and if model stays exactly the same can forget promotion
     
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  15. Hudson92

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    Might be blind faith on my part but even Dodds has mentioned the need for experience now, I know he then back tracked RE the 9 but they can’t ignore it forever surely, I think/hope it will be addressed this window
     
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  16. Disco down under

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    I just think I've got enough actual problems to worry about that becoming a toxic pit of wretched dread about Sunderland's signings doesn't appeal to me.

    The lads we signed last year are young and might hit their stride as fantastic players. Not much point taking them out the back with a shotgun and a shovel just yet.

    Might be the same this year. They might take a while to get going. That's OK. I'm not in a huge rush to see the club move up to the plateau of the premier league's mid table where the only place we can go from is down.

    I like Sunderland in the championship. I liked them in league one. I'll like them if we get to the premier league.
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    I've no idea what the model is and, whatever it is, I don't believe it's set in stone.

    Staying in the Championship is very costly so I can't imagine why any club would choose to stay there.
     
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  18. SourPatch2

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    Thing is though, what Dodds actually said is correct and he's been slated for it. He said we need better players in forward areas not necessarily a 9 and that is spot on. There's no point adding a 9 if the players behind them don't have the ability to feed them and chip in with goals themselves. Look around the top 6 of the league, outside of WBA they all have a non striker in double figures this season (like us) but all apart from Southampton have 2 non strikers in double figures, and they all have a player with double digit assists, again apart from WBA, which we do not. We need more quality in the forward areas all together, not just the 9 who will be ineffective without quality behind them.

    This week i've seen praise on here for Simms and Latte Lath, both of these have caught fire recently and are rightly getting plaudits, however they had bang average seasons up until recently but both Coventry and Boro stuck with them unlike us with our forwards. If we bring in a forward in the summer and he scores just 3 goals between August and January like Simms we'll write him off and slate the clubs recruitment again instead of giving them a chance to settle into the team.

    With the same chance Simms and Latte Lath got with their teams why couldn't Rusyn have got into double figures? After all, the only player who outscored him last season in the Ukrainian League is the La Liga top scorer this season.
     
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  19. Scout73

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    Only if we got the right striker tho, its easy saying if we signed a striker we would have been fine

    Last summer was a poor window, we all agree with that but they at least invested money into the team. Did they sign the right players? Nope, certainly not for the short term. My confidence isnt as high as it was before wuth this recruitment team but i am encouraged that we spent money, id be more worried if we were just trying to sign players on the cheap who werent up to it

    The ambition is there, they just got it wrong - happens so often with player recruitment

    If they have learnt from last summer then we will be fine - the 2 previous summer windows were very good so theyve got the summer window right 66% of the time
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    After every game it's guaranteed someone will say 'We'd have won that match with Stewart'.

    I remember at least one stretch when he failed to score for half a dozen games ...

    ... one was around the 6-0 Bolton debacle iirc.
     
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