My Son refs and in his view, at all times the Huddersfield players arm was in a position that is, wholly justifiable by his body movement for that specific situation. It is weirdly like talking to a robot.
A player is allowed to raise their arms. A ball striking a raised arm is not instantly an offence. The question is whether the hand/arm is making the body unnaturally bigger. This player was not making his body unnaturally bigger versus the definition in the law. Raising an arm while attempting to make a block is a natural movement in that specific situation .
The referee appears to disagree with the law. Her interpretation appears to be that the players hand/arm was in a unnatural position. The players arm was in a position that was natural. The following are natural positions for the arms justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image
Dermot Gallagher doesn’t think it was a penalty apparently…. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-penalty-huddersfield-referee-9227704
So do I, she was perfectly placed to see it as well. The point is all teams have decisions for fouls, and penalties that could be debated, the ref made a decision on the day, in a split second, and was well positioned. Accept the decision and move on. Much worse decisions have gone against us, that’s football.
Why would those involved in VAR ignore the laws of the game and IFAB guidance? Like this was not an offence?
What do you think the referee should have given v West Ham? Your point was VAR would have given the decision versus Huddersfield. Why would VAR ignore what is in the laws of the game here - Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct (thefa.com) and IFAB guidance here Handball | IFAB (footballrules.com)? Me too, and in this case I think the ref is using rules to laws that do not exist, or has misinterpreted them.
Interpretation.....VAR, They even get it wrong, or what many think is wrong....same with referee's . .....both appear inconsistent, it's not crystal clear...never will be... IMO it hit his arm, his arm stopped the cross..it is harsh and I said at the beginning, I wouldn't have liked it given against us... Within football mistakes are still made, it will never be perfect...again IMO it shouldn't be either..
I think its an interesting topic. The ball did hit his hand/arm and there are very many scenarios where this is not an offence. Speaking to a ref (my Son) he informed me of something I never knew if a player heads or kicks the ball and its strikes his arm or hand, this can never be an offence regardless of arm position. Handball | IFAB (footballrules.com) That is not what occurred. In regards to this v Huddersfield what is being noted is that the referee must be using a rule that does not exist.
So your saying players cant put their arms up and have to waddle around like penguins when defending???
Well, if the do end up going down it will be because over the course of the season they didn’t manage to secure enough points - not just because of the 2 points dropped at Ashton Gate last Saturday. Throughout the season you will benefit from some refereeing mistakes and you will also fall victim to some of them. We at Bristol City know that very well.
I’m saying the way the rules are at present if you hand is in the air whilst blocking a shot or cross and the ball hits it you risk giving away a penalty, it’s open to interpretation. The thing I’d say about the decision is the ref was well placed to see the incident and make a judgement. We’ve had much more blatant penalties turned down, that’s football.
So are you saying players cant put their arms up out move them and have to waddle around like penguins when defending???
Read mine. So are you saying players cant put their arms up out move them and have to waddle around like penguins when defending???
