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Not really. Didn’t have a clue who they were. Except the one I mentioned.

 

I think he's saying they wouldnt have been using shops for years so they are unlikely to suddenly try.
There's always people going to be on the cusp having a problem with shopkeepers whether they are legal or not.

 

Only about 12% of the UK adult population are smokers now. After 40 years of not many new smokers there'll be a lot less the 2060s.

No shops will be selling ciggies in 40 years time with so few customers about.

 

Cruise ships are the most highly polluting vehicle on the planet, ban the ****ers, maybe we can keep our gas boilers then

 

No, I'm not saying that. I was stating that a 56 year old is hardly likely to try and buy cigarettes from a shop, if they haven't been able to for 40 years and they're hardly likely to get irate by it, having lived with the rule for four decades.

Your extremely niche fantasy situation, as a justification for not having this proposed new law, isn't logical.

I don't understand why almost all of your non-football posts mention migrants - there is zero relevance to this particular conversation.

 

It’s just stupidity!

Price people out of buying cigarettes, but banning them is ridiculous. It’s like everything that’s illegal, people want it more, for some bizarre reason!

 

Trust me, I worked on Cruise Ships & they go OTT on environmental issues that it just is very environmentally friendly.
It’s been a few years now, but even the oil gets recycled, there’s probably nothing that gets used that doesn’t get recycled.
I can’t remember the fuel, but it’s also supposed to be EF too.
The only problem with Cruise ships is that the crew are basically classed as modern day slaves. A lot from 3rd world countries, so they suck it up

 

Being a bit cynical one could say that by aiming this new idea at young people he can say he's trying to stop a generation from taking up smoking but he's also not losing too many votes because they're not old enough yet. Pricing people out might be a much more effective measure but it's also a potential vote loser!

 

Nearly all of my non football posts do not mention migrants. Except in your niche fantasy situation.

What if, say in 15 years time, someone moved here from Germany, where cigarettes are currently about £6 a packet compared to £15 here, and had been smoking since they were 16, 18 or whatever their age limit is? Would they be told that they cannot buy cigarettes here? Or from any other country where smoking is legal. Or holiday makers from other countries?

 

Figures show cars and aviation create more emissions than all shipping, commercial and cruising combined.

 

Yes I saw that stat, crazy when you think they are a leisure activity that’s not really needed

 

It is true that fuel output is huge, they’re always looking for the next big opportunity, methanol is the latest thing they’re trying, however in comparison to hotels etc, the recycling that is done, including oils from the engines is immense.

 

Do you mean cruising isn't needed? It's an odd statement, it's incredibly popular, people love them. And anyway, how do you rank leisure activities on the basis of 'need'. Do we 'need' football, golf, sailing, seaside resorts? I don't really understand where you're coming from.

 

Neither is flying on holiday. Or going by coach. Or hiring a motor cruiser. But people enjoy them.

 

If the UK is going batshit crazy on banning fuel cars, gas boilers, log burners and every thing else oil related, cruise ships which are massively polluting should be banned, the rest you mentioned aren’t climate unfriendly

 

But do you get rid of the least or most polluting first?