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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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In all seriousness you had the credit crunch which impacted on getting mortgages and credit facilities for businesses. That's still the same today. But house prices were still easily affordable particularly for first time buyers so ppl were still buying and able to get on the property ladder, inflation didn't go above 5% and the bank base rate didn't go above 0.5%. And the cost of living was not remotely anywhere close to what we're experiencing with utilities, fuel, groceries etc. It was nowhere near as bad for Joe public as it is now or has been in the past 2 years.

I just remember leaving school in 2010 and being informed jobs were extinct, a thing of the past and the Job centre telling me to **** off and die in a hole.

It was 8% unemployment back then, which was appalling.

But looking at it, the economy was still even better than what I just saw looking this up in 1997, Blair took over a dung pile.
 
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I just remember leaving school in 2010 and being informed jobs were extinct, a thing of the past and the Job centre telling me to **** off and die in a hole.

It was 8% unemployment back then, which was appalling.

But looking at it, the economy was still even better than what I just saw looking this up in 1997, Blair took over a dung pile.

I think that's a fair point and what you've highlighted it's all down to personal experiences to a large extent. When I posted I was doing the same and the things affecting me and those I knew then and now. I still maintain it was better then but appreciate if you were looking for work there were problems - I'd say particularly within retail and banking because those were the businesses the credit crunch hit hardest. I was already well into my work/career so didn't affect me as much. I can't remember 1997 and what Labour took over, but from the turn of 2000 and right up to 2008 from personal experience it was pretty bloody good.
 
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I remember the crash as we had to open up a new floor in the Jobcentre to deal with the increase in unemployment .
Mind you some did well out of it as i could have set the floor up and had it running in about 3 weeks but instead we were made to do it by the book and have all the bells and whistles made to fit the normal standard . As i was involved as the local IT bod i saw the project sheets and the cost was over £350k . Though tbf it continued to be in use till the JC closed
 
I think that's a fair point and what you've highlighted it's all down to personal experiences to a large extent. When I posted I was doing the same and the things affecting me and those I knew then and now. I still maintain it was better then but appreciate if you were looking for work there were problems - I'd say particularly within retail and banking because those were the businesses the credit crunch hit hardest. I was already well into my work/career so didn't affect me as much. I can't remember 1997 and what Labour took over, but from the turn of 2000 and right up to 2008 from personal experience it was pretty bloody good.

Yeah, I pretty much <ok>

I remember 2010 as a time of daunting anxiety, leaving school was a nightmare I remember everyone being recommended to just take any type of degree and stay in the system as long as possible.

But I do know that my parents were overall very happy under Blair's government.

I don't blame Brown by the way. I think looking back, Brown was a good prime minister. I wish he won in retrospect
 
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Yeah, I pretty much <ok>

I remember 2010 as a time of daunting anxiety, leaving school was a nightmare I remember everyone being recommended to just take any type of degree and stay in the system as long as possible.

But I do know that my parents were overall very happy under Blair's government.

I don't blame Brown by the way. I think looking back, Brown was a good prime minister. I wish he won in retrospect

Would've been interesting to see what might have happened if Brown had the greater minority and formed a coalition with the Libdems.
 
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Yeah, I pretty much <ok>

I remember 2010 as a time of daunting anxiety, leaving school was a nightmare I remember everyone being recommended to just take any type of degree and stay in the system as long as possible.

But I do know that my parents were overall very happy under Blair's government.

I don't blame Brown by the way. I think looking back, Brown was a good prime minister. I wish he won in retrospect

The crash didn't affect me at all, although about a year after the crash I had taken redundancy and took about 6 months off work from the beginning of spring until the end of summer, not looking for work and not signing on, just fooked off on holiday, and got another job once I'd ticked the boxes of the stuff I wanted to do. that year. Don't think I ever blamed Labour for the crash, I thought that was the Americans, Gordon Brown did what he could with that other guy (Alistar Darling was it?) in getting our banks to bail out one another, there was a lot of bolloxs in the press around that time, and they never really got the credit they deserved for preventing our economy from keeling over. They come up against some red tape along the way, but they did what I always say do, stop telling me the fooking problem and just give me the solution.
 
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Would've been interesting to see what might have happened if Brown had the greater minority and formed a coalition with the Libdems.

The Lib Dems (Clegg really) never should have pledged a coalition with the biggest party.

I think the Dems would have done good work with Labour and today we would have free uni
 
The Lib Dems (Clegg really) never should have pledged a coalition with the biggest party.

I think the Dems would have done good work with Labour and today we would have free uni

Tbf I think Brown chose not to entertain the idea. Iirc part of the reason was that the Labour vote was less than the Tory and he felt it wouldn't be right, and partly a feeling of humiliation at doing so. But those were the days when prime ministers had some standards (Labour and Tory).
 
Since about 2016 I've had to go to hospital every year, mostly twice a year for procedures, that's excluding consultant appointments and preassessments. Last time I saw the consultant was around October last year, last preassessement around November time (would need to look up precise dates).. Anyway originally I was in within two weeks of the consultant and assessment, at the most I waited a month or two, even during covid years, everything went fine, surprisingly. This time I've been waiting six months, now. I've not chased it mostly due to anxiety reasons, which is natural, you just want to keep plodding along and not think about it. However, yesterday something different happened, even though I was actually thinking of phoning them soon, due to concerns. Anyway I received a message on my phone from the NHS - It's where everything links in through the apps these days, from your medical records, for want of whatever its called. I had to respond to a question, from Waiting Coordinator at the NHS. It asked if I still wanted to hold my appointment for my operation, as it had been so long, and I was to simply respond yes or no - if I said no, they would advise my doctor that I no longer wished to have treatment. Like WTF? Anyway I responded with the predictable YES, but you don't even get a response or record that you done that. I'm in two minds whether to ring them today, so if it was to save time, it actually has probably created phone traffic into the hospitals now, from patients concerned about what is going on. Just hope Labour have a plan for this shhite, and it's not one involved going private.

I forgot to add, the message did say my expected date of been seen was January, which would have tied in with normal procedures times.

I wrote this yesterday and today got a phone call from the consultants secretary, we have a cancellation next week and...

well you know how it goes, but seems odd to me, makes me wonder if someone got their butt kicked for an oversight. I know waiting lists have been long, but this didn't seem the norm for me, so suspect something got overlooked and the waiting list co-ordinator maybe got a few cogs moving.

Trouble is I live my life purposely not thinking about it and everytime as soon as the date drops, my mood is like reality suddenly dawning. Hate it and GA always puts me on a high and then I crash and burn after a couple of days...

So expect @PINKIE to get banned sometime over the next week or two. :bandit:
 
I wrote this yesterday and today got a phone call from the consultants secretary, we have a cancellation next week and...

well you know how it goes, but seems odd to me, makes me wonder if someone got their butt kicked for an oversight. I know waiting lists have been long, but this didn't seem the norm for me, so suspect something got overlooked and the waiting list co-ordinator maybe got a few cogs moving.

Trouble is I live my life purposely not thinking about it and everytime as soon as the date drops, my mood is like reality suddenly dawning. Hate it and GA always puts me on a high and then I crash and burn after a couple of days...

So expect @PINKIE to get banned sometime over the next week or two. :bandit:

Maybe you'll die during the operation and then you won't have your tools anymore <laugh>

Seriously though fella, I hope that all goes well for you. Stressful situation, but hopefully you'll be all the better for it afterwards. I guess that's what you have to concentrate on.
 
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Maybe you'll die during the operation and then you won't have your tools anymore <laugh>

Seriously though fella, I hope that all goes well for you. Stressful situation, but hopefully you'll be all the better for it afterwards. I guess that's what you have to concentrate on.

Well I'm sure that helped his anxiety pinkie, top bed side manner <laugh>
 
I wrote this yesterday and today got a phone call from the consultants secretary, we have a cancellation next week and...

well you know how it goes, but seems odd to me, makes me wonder if someone got their butt kicked for an oversight. I know waiting lists have been long, but this didn't seem the norm for me, so suspect something got overlooked and the waiting list co-ordinator maybe got a few cogs moving.

Trouble is I live my life purposely not thinking about it and everytime as soon as the date drops, my mood is like reality suddenly dawning. Hate it and GA always puts me on a high and then I crash and burn after a couple of days...

So expect @PINKIE to get banned sometime over the next week or two. :bandit:

good luck my bro
 
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Just seen the Reform leader, whatever his name, he was put some simple questions by the SKY reporter Kamali around asylum seekers, and talk about a very defensive and bordering aggressive response, lots of hot air, does he really think people will vote for someone with that attitude, just answer the questions in a rational manner, it's the voters you need to convince, and if the reporter is not happy with your answers it's the reporters job to challenge them, blaming the Tories and Labour is not a vote winner, now or never, be a politician and wind your neck in.
 
Just seen the Reform leader, whatever his name, he was put some simple questions by the SKY reporter Kamali around asylum seekers, and talk about a very defensive and bordering aggressive response, lots of hot air, does he really think people will vote for someone with that attitude, just answer the questions in a rational manner, it's the voters you need to convince, and if the reporter is not happy with your answers it's the reporters job to challenge them, blaming the Tories and Labour is not a vote winner, now or never, be a politician and wind your neck in.

He is like that. Extremely aggressive, so arrogant too.

Just goes into like "this reporter, I'm gonna rip him to shreds, make him look like an idiot"

Just relax.
 
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He is like that. Extremely aggressive, so arrogant too.

Just goes into like "this reporter, I'm gonna rip him to shreds, make him look like an idiot"

Just relax.

The guy is a total tit, so probably means the British public will vote for him. <laugh>

Kamali just played it cool and said you didn't answer my first question so let's try with the second, then they cut the interview off completely lol.
 
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Tbf I think Brown chose not to entertain the idea. Iirc part of the reason was that the Labour vote was less than the Tory and he felt it wouldn't be right, and partly a feeling of humiliation at doing so. But those were the days when prime ministers had some standards (Labour and Tory).


Labour were exhausted after 13 years in power, everybody felt it. Not as politically, morally, and ideologically exhausted as the current government, obviously. But there was a feeling they didn't have much left to offer, whereas the Tories appeared to have reinvented themselves and modernised a bit under David Cameron. How did that go, Dave?

The Liberals didn't blow it by going into government with the Tories, they blew it by completely capitulating on Student Loans and Proportional Representation, the two biggest pillars in their manifesto..
 
Genuinely think the Tories are in danger of losing even opposition status.

Actually gets worse for them by the day.