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  1. zimozimo

    zimozimo Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't be everything. IKEA isn’t a daily essential, no matter how often someone might eat the meatballs.
     
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    Unfortunately, we’ll all have to start making inconvenient choices at some point if we want a habitable land to live.
     
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    we go once a week to Ikea
    we go to another place more than 15 minutes away once a week
    we go to friends and relatives or they come to us once or twice a week and they are more than 15 minutes away
    we are not going back to living in tents/caves and walk everywhere
    society has evolved and improved and no amount of pressure by "planners" will change people
    in London trains/tubes/buses are very efficient
     
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    "habitable land" - what do you mean?
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    Jesus wept, nobody's suggesting that the entire population needs to be within 15 minutes of an IKEA or all their mates.

    The idea is that everyone can reach nine basic needs — such as food, health care, education and sports — within 15 minutes by bike. It's already been successfully implemented in several cities. Utrecht is a prime example, almost 100% of the population can access these things within fifteen minutes already.
     
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  6. zimozimo

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    Global warming, our planet’s rising temperature, the eventual loss of our ice caps leading to mass floods, and a reduction in safe, breathable air. We’re not preventing any of that by burning fossil fuels, and there are no solutions that wouldn’t come without a degree of inconvenience to us all. One day, future humans will balk at the idea that we would drive such short trips because we didn’t fancy doing it another way.

    It’s worth mentioning that I don’t want to sound high and mighty, as I drive everywhere myself. I’d like to reduce this, but it’s difficult where I live because everything seems to be just too far to walk.
     
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    You really think people should use their bike to do food shopping?
    People who require health care should go to doctors and hospitals by bike?
    What madness is this?
     
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    Hows it work in reality?
    10,000 patients per gp surgery?
     
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    We are all doomed!?
    https://x.com/Haosou1/status/1776567559971590510
     
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    I wasn't being serious, jhe. I like the idea of the process and will hopefully be moving back into city life later this year, after 18 years living in the countryside (that has progressively become less countryside over this period of time). The idea of walking 15 mins to get my food, go to the gym, a bar/restaurant and 15 mins walk from my company office, rather than commuting every day or having to get in the car, appeals.

    Anyone that goes to IKEA weekly needs to be sectioned ;... It's a fking nightmare walking round.
     
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    Going to the Ikea restaurant at Croydon involves going through the entrance, up the escalator and into the restaurant
    It can be done in a minute if you have your wits about you
     
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    Was there not something included in the 15 minute city idea about limiting the number of times you could enter the area by car?
     
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    netherlands population increased by about 1.8million since 2000
    england population increased about about 10million since 2000

    all aspects of services are far worse than 2000, how on earth are these cities mean to work

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    dystopian af innit

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    Are you one of those people who starts at the beginning and walks through to the end rather than look at the diagrams and takes the short cuts?
     
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    Yes, it was under some hare brained schemes proposed here.
     
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    I'm one of those people who doesn't go to IKEA. It's not for me, Peter, I don't enjoy shopping, especially on a weekend. Online for me, all the way.
     
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