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  1. Ivan Dobsky

    Ivan Dobsky GC Thread Terminator

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    It's offside - he's standing in front of the goalie. We had this a few years' ago at WBA and I had to ****ing educate the troglodytes on the Prem Board about the rules of the game (again). The rules mention **** all about judging whether the goalie could have saved it - if you stand in front of the goalie in an offside position you ipso facto are obscuring their vision and are therefore active. The very definition of offside. MoTD punditry is ****ing appalling.
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

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    I agree that that it’s not on the keeper to move around the player - in that case the player would clewrly be impacting the keeper.

    And I agree nothing in rules to say of keeper will save it etc.

    But I don’t think the player is blocking keepers view. The wolves player that heads is 6 yards out in middle of the goal, totally unmarked, the header goes from his head and towards the corner. The keeper can clearly see the ball all the way as player isn’t obstructing his view, he’s not touching him so isn’t stopping him diving, keeper didn’t even appeal for it.

    If the header had gone somewhere near the offside player and keeper has to anticipate if going to touch it or loses sight of it behind him then fine but I think this is where common sense hasn’t been used. We can all see he hasn’t impacted the keeper but refs gone too technical and just seen him standing near him and judged it on the picture rather than actual events n
     
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  3. organic red

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    When the ball is headed the keepers view is defo obstructed
     
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  4. Bumps

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    Strangely - that’s exactly how I saw it with the added bit of not being convinced he was offside either
    Not spent hours looking at it just thought it was a shocker of a decision

    also I would add that that move happens on nearly every single corner
    I agreed with O Niels take on it about people who have played the game tbh
     
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  5. Ivan Dobsky

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    Watch it again - he has to crane his neck around the attacker to get the full vision you imply, changing his body position. Again, the very definition of somebody in an offside position who is affecting play and thus becomes active.

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    The very moment the ball is headed he simply cannot see where it will go when it comes off his head. Dunno how anyone can say otherwise. True, he's probably never going to save it anyway, but that's a consideration not in the rules I'm afraid.
     
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  6. saintanton

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    Yeah, he's definitely obscuring his view.
    As @Bumps says, Wolves have had some terrible decisions go against them this season, but that one is fair enough imo.
    As for Shearer and Dublin's comments - I hardly ever listen to their waffle, but they were strikers, did anyone ask a keeper?
     
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  7. Mark Blow

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    Anyone else seen Ben White’s injury faking against Brighton last night. Pretended he’s been pushed in the face by Estupinan when he’s been pushed on the shoulder. You’d have thought he’d have been chinned by Antony Joshua the way he behaved. Disgraceful

    https://x.com/eplbible/status/1776721672751509836?s=46
     
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  8. mighty_stevie_g

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    He left a naughty one on him first half as well, guys a twat
     
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  9. RogerisontheHunt

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    Really hope Spurs lose today. We need Man U to stay interested in getting top4 for just alittle longer
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    why?

    they have an fa cup final date with city to worry about and wouldn't take a point off anyone.

    we want spurs on the beach when they come to anfield.
     
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  11. RogerisontheHunt

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    Cause they play Arsenal?

    So do Spurs.

    I'm not worried about our remaining games, if we don't win what's left then we don't deserve to win the league. So we need Arsenal to drop points (and City if possible)
     
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  12. RogerisontheHunt

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    In other news Chelsea give up a win against Sheff U, conceding in the 93rd minute to end 2-2.

    Chelsea are a real mess. They'll probably spend another billion this summer, only to get slapped with a huge pts deduction <whistle> (hopefully). Relegation please.
     
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  13. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Shame we played them game 1 when they were still enthusiastic
     
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  14. The IncREDibles

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    Yep it was the worst combination along with us not getting our transfer business sorted. We'd have won that game with an up and running Endo.
     
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  15. johnsonsbaby

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    Arsenal really have become masters of the dark arts. It's put me right off Saka as well who I thought was an amazing young talent but since he's added in the flopping, faking dives, I've got no time for him anymore. I think back to our game against them when Gabriel crumpled to the ground and remained completely motionless for about 20 or 30 seconds, doesn't sound a long time but in real time when you're watching, it's an eternity. I really thought I'd just witnessed a terrible tragedy on the field only to find out that I'd been deceived. It was the most shocking fake I've seen. The fact they do it every game - to a greater or lesser extent, means that it's being sanctioned by the manager. Klopp cut that out very early on when, I think it was Mané, tried flopping a few times. Doesn't mean that our players don't go down easily on occasion but it's absolutely not a feature of our play like it is with Arsenal.
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    ]they are a reflection of thier manager.

    same as brighton players are a reflection of de zerbi

    Its not sanctioned. its demanded.

    Klopp is too honest. it took fabinho to arrive for someone to dare go in and deliberately foul a player on a break.

    Look at utd yesterday. downright assault for casemiro laughed at by the rat faced co commentator when it was a leg breaker. utd are always at that stuff and its a regular feature of ten haag's tenure.
     
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  17. johnsonsbaby

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    I said exactly this the other day.

    There have been times when I've watched a game and seen the opposition flops being bought every time by the referee and I've thought why not fight fire with fire. If the ref's buying it, we should give it a go but I know what Klopp's stance is. As you say, he's too honest and that filters down into how the team plays.
     
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  18. saintanton

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    Honestly, I'd give up before I descend to that level. The onus is on the authorities to clamp down on that behaviour even if retrospective assessments and punishments have to be introduced. They have tried with the thirty-second rule, but that's really unfair on genuine injuries.
     
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  19. johnsonsbaby

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    Have you never once shouted at the screen 'stay down' when one of ours gets hacked in the penalty area? :bandit:
     
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  20. mighty_stevie_g

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    Another couple of points taken from Everton <laugh>

    Finger in the air stuff here
     
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