Yes. True. But how much waste do you think comes out when you drill for oil, then refine it, then transport it round the world and then burn/use it. Soon cost of recycling lithium will be cheaper than mining new and so it will be a far more sustainable energy source. Its over 10 degrees today and I charged at the petrol station this morning on a fast charger - 10-80% in 17 minutes for a 100kwh battery.
To save the planet in the future, we right royally **** it up further in the here and now? Ah, sorry, I must have missed the bit about the finished product walking to the next process in the final manufacture of a battery.
If nothing else, at least EV’s can contain pollutants in controlled places rather than polluting the atmosphere everywhere including around densely populated areas. Even if an EV has the same carbon footprint across its lifetime as a fossil fuel vehicle it’s still a much better alternative.
2. Myth: Lithium Mining is Entirely Clean and Sustainable Fact: While lithium plays a vital role in renewable energy, its extraction isn't entirely without environmental impact. The process can have significant ecological footprints, affecting water usage and natural habitats. This only further emphasizes the need for sustainable and responsible mining practices. 3. Myth: Lithium Mining Has Minimal Environmental Consequences Fact: Lithium mining, especially in its more traditional forms, can lead to significant environmental consequences. This includes water depletion and pollution. More research and innovation is required to create and implement more eco-friendly extraction methods. Another player in the lithium game. As the oft repeated comment on my school reports noted - must do better. How far away are we from this great eco miracle?
Yea, a bit like how the electricity is produced here in the UK for charging everything electric. External combustion as opposed to internal combustion. I'm sorry I do not share your evangelical zeal for EV's. There is a long, long way to go before I would ever consider buying one. I shall award myself bonus smug points for driving something that messes up the world today. And not believing that, today, EV's are the solution. Not today. Probably tomorrow, if tomorrows are years. I would like them to resolve the self combustible element as well.
And digging up Lithium, transporting around the world, manufacturing batteries, then transporting them to the car manufacturers is ‘green’ is it? Not to mention they’re wider and heavier than petrol/diesel cars. Not to mention they keep bursting into flame and **** knows where the electricity is come from to charge them and how do you charge them if you live in a block of flats or terraced houses, you’ve been conned hook line and sinker mate.
You can charge them at public charging points, if they're working and if there's one free. The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
If and if. The ones at a local supermarket are unavailable because people who are unable to park their 4 4 s in a normal space between other cars find them useful when disabled spaces and spaces for parents with children are already full.
So you're telling me these electric cars, you sometimes have to go to a public place to recharge them? You can't necessarily just do it at home every night if you don't have the right kind of house? It's hard to see how that'll ever catch on. Cos with petrol and diesel there's none of that is there. You just plug it into the diesel port of your block of flats every night and you're good to go.
If you live in a block of flats with no parking and have access to only one supermarket which doesn't have available charging places, then an electric car is most likely not the right solution at this moment in time. I would guess that the better solution for that specific person would be to vote for a government which has a stronger integrated public transport plan, a willingness to follow it through and to ignore the online culture wars and support the idea of a '15 minute city', which reduces the need for any form of motorised transport, with the added benefits of saving a lot of money also.
Even better idea. Keep your petrol/diesel car and don’t buy into the climate change scam/ WEF agenda.
The point I was making is that even where there are EV charging points you cannot always use them a lot of the time because the sort of people who use disabled and parent and child places because they can’t park their 4 x 4s in a normal space are occupying. There are other EV charging points near me but often have the same problem. John Prescott was introducing an integrated transport policy and said he should be judged on the success of that. That went well, didn’t it? A 15 minute city is all well and good in theory. But who would want to be stuck in some areas as not everywhere will have the same access to what they need in 15 minutes. Especially if they want something not available. If people don’t have motorised transport how do they get anywhere at unsocial hours or when public transport is beset by strikes? And if we were solely reliant on public transport we would have more strikes whilst the unions shed crocodile tears at inconveniencing the public at weekends and public holidays.
