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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    This isn’t related to Israel. Not everything has to be even if it’s the trendiest war ever.
     
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  2. Treble

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    K bro if you say so.

    We'll file Vietnam, Iraq and Ukraine under 'trendy' as well.
     
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    They were all trendy in their day. Not as trendy as this I’d argue.
     
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    Read something interesting about Arthur James Balfour today, the guy who announced the Balfour declaration.

    He did this as the UKs foreign secretary and was really a major driving figure in Britain settling Jews in Palestine.

    Balfour was an anti-semite, he stated; "[the establishment of Israel] would work to mitigate the age old problem of having a body within Western civilization which we consider alien and dangerous."

    The US commission into Britain's plan, argue that atleast 50k British soldiers would need to be present in Palestine to "put down natives, against colonisation" it actually took around 100k.

    The US commission, openly stated in its investigation that by announcing support for an Israeli state, they would be committing the American people to military violence within Palestine.

    Zionist writers during the 1930s, openly referred to the efforts as a colonisation. Even stating that Israelis who believed it would be completed diplomatically as naive. As stated "at no time during the history of colonisation, has a native population ever welcomed it's colonisers"

    Doesn't change a thing about today, but all interesting.

    A way someone put it which I liked "Zionist Israel was a way that Europe could shove it's Jewish problem under a rug and forget about it."
     
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  5. PINKIE

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    This

    Which is why Zionism is a problem. As it's been enacted (deliberately) as a Colonialist enterprise.

    Something that belongs in the 19th century and should be consigned to history.

    Unforgivable that's it's going on in broad daylight in the 21st century.
     
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    We fought both the native Palestinian community and the Zionist colonialists in fact there used to be a small museum in iirc Haifa dedicated to documenting British torture and oppression of the Jewish immigrants / terrorists
     
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    Orwellian nightmare **** being played out in Gaza

    Transpiring that IDF use an AI targeting system called Lavender to scan and identify ‘suspects’ linked to Hamas. The parameters of which were anybody who might have been in a WhatsApp group with a suspected Hamas member, somebody who changes their phone often or anybody who may have had links supplying Hamas with information or equipment.

    They also use an even more sinister AI system called ‘where’s daddy’ where the AI system waits until a ‘suspect’ has entered a domestic setting i.e their home, mosque, shop etc and then deploys a ‘dumb bomb’ to to kill up to 20 people as that’s what they consider acceptable collateral damage.

    These dumb bombs are used on low level ‘suspects’ as the IDF don’t want to waste money on using precision weapons, saved for high ranking Hamas officials. So everybody in the building dies instead.

    Artifical intelligence being used to deliberately target families and innocent people. War crimes being played out right in front of the worlds eyes.
     
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    ^^^ Israel unsurprisingly denying that they even use this tech
     
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  10. Star of David Bardsley

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    We holding Israel to a higher standard than any other country in a war (or even not in a war) then? Good.
     
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    Indiscriminate targeting of civilians is not really an act of war ... more an act of barbarity...
     
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    **** sake Fosse I could write what you know about this on the back of a stamp.

    Are we really saying all the countries we’ve supplied arms to before have never done anything as bad as Israel? The hysteria over this is mental.
     
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    Probs find out that it was Rishi's wife's company that sold Israel the AI tech

    Probably.
     
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    In most 'wars' it is rare for the number of civilian casualties to outnumber the military ones, let alone be multiples of them ...

    As to what you can teach me? I suspect very little (about anything) I was very much alive and cognisant from the Oslo accords onwards and so have witnessed what has happened in the region in that 'real time' albeit reliant on news footage for that knowledge... I have no 'side' no 'allegiance' - I merely state facts; facts such as casualty dynamics, unlawful occupation, illegal settlement and oppression - all of which you tend to dismiss out of hand ...
     
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    Suella ordered the hit. She’s over there apparently for some reason.
     
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    Yeah clocked that.

    She's probs on full paid expenses trip from BAE systems

    Bit like when Canyon hips Patel went over to make 'off record' deals with Israeli officials
     
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    Only WWII, Korea, Vietnam and loads of other wars. It’s urban warfare with civilians intentionally put in the middle. Obviously a lot will die. It would be far more than it is now if Israel was just going around on a genocidal rampage.

    I’m dismissing you out of hand.
     
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    Cruella kinda let the cat out of the bag when she said the UK needs to stand by its only ally in the region

    Which is why the UK supply Israel with arms and political support, despite their use against innocent civilians

    Don't think they realised how much Bibi hates Muslims and enjoys killing children though.
     
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    I remember when everyone was berating the U.S. over Iraq, or Vietnam. Everyone was saying hey why is everyone focusing on all the civilians being killed in this war. What about some other war? Can't we talk about that instead.

    And the whole world suddenly felt a lot better.

    Ffs <laugh>
     
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    A lorra whataboutery been spouted on this thread
     
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