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How do we solve the Trent problem

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  1. quinneristops

    quinneristops Well-Known Member

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    Trent has been brilliant for us but he does not have the best defensive record. Bradley has been a revelation this season and will only get better. Trent only has a year left on his contract and Real Madrid are sniffing around. He can leave on a free next year.
    So, the new manager will have to decide how he fits in to his plans and if he does not sign a new contract, we will have to try to get a reasonable market price for a very special player
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t sign a new contract. I imagine TAA and vvd will sign up once season is over and new manager is in place and talk has been had.

    Bradley won’t play 38 prem games at RB and he’ll have a big dip in form at some point. TAA may just end up going full time in midfield under new manager anyway.
     
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    quinneristops Well-Known Member

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    I really hope Trent and VVD sign new contracts. There is going to be a lot of change at the club with a new manager coming in so we need the experienced players to stay and say goodbye to Matip and others who have come to the end of their time with us
     
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  4. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    How do you solve a problem like Trent Arnold?
    How to defend when you're in the other half?
    How do you find a.word that means Trent Arnold?
    A footballist?
    A right-backerist?
    A scouse?

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    That's not TAA but it'll have to do.
     
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  5. Uncle Colm

    Uncle Colm Dullcrusher

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    We can play 4-4-2 in some games. No problem at all.
     
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    If it is to be Amorim his back 3 formation may well cement Trents future position within the team...i.e. further forward.
    Trent will sign....Scouser,captain in waiting and RM would balk at the £150m? asking price.
     
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    Trent would have to move forward with a back three. He's too valuable to leave out and he wouldn't work in a back three.

    Robertson would be a different problem. He could be left out more in Amorim's preferred formation. I think we have better options for midfield and he's not really ideal for a back three either.

    Trent... No worries about him adapting.
     
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    organic red Well-Known Member

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    ffs
     
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    I miss Robbo bombing down the left wing and Trent pinging in pinpoint crosses from wide right. Those two with MFS up front gave us the most exciting football I've seen in a long while. I can't take to the inverted FBs or whatever they're called in the same way.
    Anyway, who knows how it will pan out with the new manager, so I'll just wait and see.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    trent is not a problem than needs resolving.

    all bets and systems are off next August so inverted fullbacks and such may be be irrelevant

    right now imo trent doesn't get a game over Bradley so we can give him europa games.to get fit and worry about this later.

    trent can cross but if there's nobody in the box to cross to then he is irrelevant.
     
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    When Trent is fit he walks back into the team - in the same way that Alisson is back in no matter how well Kelleher has performed.
    This isn't necessarily my preference, but it's how things work.
     
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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    except trent's not really worth a place.
    especially not unfit trent.

    I do not like this ingrown toenail formation. or inverted full backs if you like.

    these players are full backs for a reason. they are not hat good in the ball so sticking them where a midfield playmaker ought to be passing the ball about is nonsense.

    same as trent is not a midfielder. he has zero concept today of playing on the turn and such and would been a long time to adapt. he's shown zero ability to trunnand play so far.
     
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    I did say a fit Trent, and I stand by that. It's about what I think will happen, not what I think ought to.
    I'm as unconvinced as you over upside-down FBs - again, as I've already stated - but it's not about my preference it's about Klopp's.
    It could all be entirely different come August.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    yup.

    roll on then.

    next set of tactics. just deliver 2 trophies and a massive massive send off party and klopp and Swan off to the sunset and enjoy a marvellous retirement and enjoy life.

    I honestly don't see him at a club again
     
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    For the rest of this season (and hopefully for many to come)our formation, and indeed total function should be this:

    1) How do we get the ball to Mac Allister?

    2) How do we get good enough to receive the ball from Mac Allister?

    Everything else is simply about getting the ball back off the opposition and stopping them scoring until we can get the ball to Mac Allister, protect him, and be in space to give him options. That's all there is to worry about.
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    we.get salah fit.

    we tell diaz to stay wide if gomez plays narrow.

    we use Bradley as the right wing option.

    let him get in thr half spaces.
     
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  17. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Except TAA is that good on the ball, is our best playmaker and the best passer in the league so makes your point totally wrong.

    Anyway the main reason to do it is to get an extra body in there. It means you can have 4 in the middle of midfield rather than 3 and therefor outnumber the opponents

    Hes been great in that role. Passing been top notch as you’d expect and if you actually watch as the season went on he’s been great in the half turn. Only seen him be caught out a couple times and that was very start of season.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    if he's facing the right way and fit sure.

    but stick him infield and he is very very pressable and can't get turned so he can't make play.

    I'd love a video of this turning about as you must be only seeing when there's no pressure on him at all or seeing him get it at quasi cb role then already turned.

    it's lovely watching them exchange a few passes early season and trent then pinging one over the top at runners where he was actually stood at rcb location not 6.

    he also like to run where ever he likes rather than do any real defending or focus so he won't play 6 or inverted full back he goes to left midfield or runs forward leaving gaps.

    even watching Brighton yesterday they had lamptey chase gomez about as there was zero left wing to defend most of the time and they pressed vvd and left quansah have it.

    endo dropped between quansah and vvd to make that extra man there to break that up so he was also facing the right way.

    gomez didn't run about just anywhere, he took Lampety to cm and diaz.did finally get sent wide.

    I much perfer seeing Bradley run forward into rw and look forward to seeing Robertson do the same at lb.
     
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  19. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Amazing that he’s running off on his own and losing the ball every time he gets it yet somehow one of the 2 best coaches in the world hasn’t dropped him or told him where he should be running instead.

    Klopp needs to go now if he has absolutely no power over the players.
     
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    I saw some stats a couple of weeks back (just before he got injured) that disproved this, he's actually got a better defensive record than the other RBs in the league, only Walker was "better"
     
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