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Match Day Thread Plymouth v Bristol City

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Red Robin, Mar 30, 2024.

  1. Supcon72

    Supcon72 Well-Known Member

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    He is destined for far better than any Championship club. Plymouth have a £15-20m striker on their hands, he will go to the PL next season, or maybe a German club who seem very good at realising the potential in young English players.
    Also, Whittaker is a 10, not a 9 which is what we need.
     
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  2. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    When Nige did play Mehmeti, most including myself committed how poor he was.. Conway had some injury issues, not really looked as sharp imo.. nothing wrong with Knight or Zak imo
     
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  3. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    That’s where we find out LMs worth finding the replacements.
    Nice to see your acknowledgments of the positives that LM brings to the table.. I’ve been saying all along.. deserves time to see if he pushes us on.
    Imo the football overall we play is so much better, balance is better and no silly sit and defend tactics..
    The only thing I’m not quite convinced about is when we go a goal down, which needs to be addressed..
     
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  4. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    For me, Mehmeti was too greedy when he first started playing. He would weave and dodge his way into traffic when a pass would have been the better option.
    Clearly he’s worked on that side of his game - and to be fair he might have done that under Nige too if Nige had stayed. It needed doing and if the fans can see it then professional football managers are all bound to see it too.
    Mehmeti has improved a lot imho. He still has a mistake in him - like all the others - because if they didn’t then they wouldn’t be playing at BS3.
     
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  5. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    I will always say it as I see it, I stated some positives, but there are more negatives at present, if and when that changes I’ll be more than happy to say so. However you dress it up results overall haven’t been anywhere near good enough, you pointed out a couple of positive results we’ve had, but are ignoring the much more numerous negative ones. It’s only the points we already had before his arrival that are keeping out of a relegation fight . Next season if he’s here he won’t have that to save him, these are hard facts. For me he’s not shown anywhere near enough to convince me to trust him with the wellbeing of our club. A few good results don’t even begin to convince me.
     
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  6. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I was the same as you when Nige was in charge.. supposed to be the big name experienced manager. I think he became one of, if not the longest serving manager in the championship at the time..but when he left we were mediocre/poor at best after 3 years in charge. He was lucky, most clubs would have fired him long before. The football was poor, the defence was poor, yet at the time I wasn’t one that wanted him gone ( but plenty vocally did). I always praised the positives and I really praised him for using the youngsters.. but did criticise a lot of his tactics and negative style. That’s now the past, I want to believe LM will turn us around. So far, just by watching all of the games since he’s been here and apart from a few duds, I’ve been impressed..which I’ve stated on many occasions and why.. certainly enough to allow him time..
     
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  7. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    The reason I was patient was the club was a basket case when he joined, now much of it had gone, I’d have liked to see how he did without the **** show-it wasn’t to be,,we move on. I feel for LM as the board above him are shocking, both JL and BT are not qualified for the roles they’re in. All the more reason why we don’t have time to allow him to learn on the job, he has to hit the ground running, and I’m afraid so far he hasn’t,,it’s a results business and results aren’t good enough. We’re ok this season, despite Liam not because of him, check back over his record with us, it’s near or near enough relegation form, based on his record I wouldn’t trust him to spend our limited cash building a squad. This summer will set us up for the foreseeable future imo, and that’s not something I’m not comfortable trusting him with based on his record with us so far.
     
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  8. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Problem is we we’re heading in that direction when he joined, we were dropping points not gaining them.. looks so much better at that part of the season but let’s not fool ourselves we were losing and dropping down the league.. LM has had some poor results but also some brilliant ones, I can’t remember a brilliant one under Nige this season.
    I trust LM as much as I trusted Nige going forward.. He’s the best we’ve got and there’s no point what so ever to trust anyone else that might come in that the board will bring in. So imo we should get behind him and see where it takes us
     
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  9. Supcon72

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    How much longer were you going to let Nige off with the ‘he inherited a basket case’ scenario. He had 3 years to turn it around. He was brought in as a highly experienced manger who had a record of doing well at other clubs in turmoil (Watford as an example) and with a limited budget, that is why I expected more from him than we got. We were still only bobbing along at the lower edges of the middle of the table when he left, for me, that wasn’t good enough, and I suspect that it wasn’t for SL either. Unlike you (and some others on here) I don’t believe his only mandate for each season was to keep us in this division, utter tosh!! I’ll accept it was when he first came in and took over from DH, we were heading back to L1 no doubt about it, as were under Cotterill when he was removed. I believe the timing of his departure was poor, but don’t believe it was entirely the wrong decision.
     
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  10. wizered

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    Amazing how some people have such short memories, of course we were a basket case when Nige took over, massive debt history culminating in a £38.4m debt deficit, top end mismanagenent policy, several years of over spend, excessive nunbers of signings with high wage, long period contracts, Covid 19 and lockdown, player and club morale had hit extreme low levels, his efforts helped put this club internally and externally back on the right tracks, reduced debt, reduced squad numbers, maintained our league status, of course the guy knew what he was taking on when he signed, he never fulfilled his ambition for us true but the way the guy was knifed in the back was disgusting, I truly believe if he had had the support and faith that certain individuals had before him his results would have been successful, his time has now gone, we have got LM who is now at the helm, he deserves time and support to develop the team, all things change, thats life, some quality signings added to our squad and who knows, chopping and changing the manager or coach is not the answer, he deserves another window and a decent run at the start of 2024/25 at least.
     
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  11. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Good response Wiz-Nige was removed at the wrong time.Should have had this season.
    JL was told some home truths and threw the man overboard.
    Shocking hence not renewing STs this year.
     
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  12. Reliant Robin TC2

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    Blige, Wiz!! I think that’s the longest individual sentence I’ve ever seen you write!!

    You been taking lessons from JGF?
     
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  13. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    <laugh> It's called the opt in - opt out scenario...:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  14. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    My biggest concern is having done all that good work to turn the club around, we now are left with JL, and BT at the helm. Utter madness.
     
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    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Wiz

    You'll never change 1For or Supcon.

    But mate, you are absolutely spot on.
     
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  16. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I never wanted Nige removed, no comment of mine has ever said Nige should be booted.. I backed him more times than not, I questioned his tactics, I would do the same who ever was in charge, in fact I did on several occasions when the boy Johnson was in charge.. but there’s no denying that we should have been far better under Nige but it wasn’t..
    LMs in charge now, I want him to do well for us and as it stands I like what I’m seeing, definitely deserves the time to see where it takes us..
     
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  17. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Still on the bright side we haven’t had local derbies for years
     
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  18. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    The gas has no chance of promotion <laugh><laugh>
     
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  19. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    I know <laugh><laugh>
     
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  20. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    It depends if you discount Cardiff or Reading as local derbies
     
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