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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Oct 29, 2022.

  1. BlackAndAmberGambler

    BlackAndAmberGambler Well-Known Member

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    So you plug into a street light leaving the cable unattended.Someone’s going to steal it or pinch your electricity. How long do these cables need to be? Just can’t see it.
     
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  2. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    Ha, you haven't used an electric car before, BAG...The cables lock into the charging port - you have to unlock the car to remove the cable.

    The electricity is metered and charged via an app, they're not open sockets like you have at your home.
     
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  3. steverico

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    Yes I do, a caravan, only bought first one last year
     
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  4. steverico

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    I tow a 1650kg van with a 1800 kg 3 series towing capicty not many new petrol cars or EV’s can do the same
     
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  5. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    Ye sounded like you were writing from experience... Certainly sounds like an ev not right for you at the moment.
     
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  6. steverico

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    A Tesla may be ok, if I don’t go too far, again charging would be a problem
     
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  7. Amin Yapusi

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    They’ve just changed the street lights outside my house. Alas, no charge points. Only one ****er out of the 15 odd cars that park on the stretch of road would ever be lucky enough to charge anyway, and you can bet a pinch to a pound of dog **** a disabled bay would pop up in front of it before long.
     
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  8. Amin Yapusi

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    Charged at a ****ing fortune. All the council owned public charge points near me are 70p per kWh right now!!! They spent a fortune putting them all in me no ****er can afford to use them. Do come in handy when you need to nip into town mid day though, guaranteed parking space. Just plug the cable in but don’t start the charge <laugh>
     
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  9. DMD

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    It's a tad misleading to claim 8,000 in lamp posts, as it includes a lot of others, and they are very low Kw points and there are a lot of logistical reasons why they can't do more, not least the cabling for the street lights can't cope, even if they could get sufficient energy to them all anyway and if they could, they'd need to be able to generate it, which they can't at present.
     
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  10. TwoWrights

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    Abridged version,
    It's ****. :emoticon-0125-mmm:


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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  11. balkan tiger

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    Public chargers and those home chargers with a cable attached to the charger are getting the cables stolen.

    They are cutting the cable with bolt croppers and leaving you with the plugs.

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  12. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    Ye i understand the infrastructure isn't there right now, for a full roll out. But it will be within years.

    The current system of the huge infrastructural development of oil being bored out of deserts/several km below the sea, then piped to a refinery, then decanted into tankers which transport it thousands of km round the world, pump it again and then it's driven to petrol stations (ha, the abridged version) just isn't sustainable. I've seen half my (engineer) colleagues over the last decade leaving for the wind and solar sector.

    The long term aim will be households generating the majority of their own power, via solar, thermal and other, such as storing it from the grid during excess periods, then storing it in batteries - electric cars allow this process to continue and so are part of the solution. The problems of supply are temporary hiccups. This will never work for all obviously, there will always be a need for some level of fossil fuel and oil. Countries having energy independence is the long term aim.
     
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  13. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    My maths could be wrong as it's early, but to charge a 150kwh battery, that's about £100 at 0,7 per kwh, and gives just under 1000km range in the latest battery, so 10p a km.. how does that compare to diesel/petrol? You also don't get the declining efficiency with removable batteries.
     
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  14. originallambrettaman

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    There isn’t a battery that lasts 1,000km yet is there? There’s one manufacturer claiming they’re launching one, but currently most are 3-400km.
     
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  15. balkan tiger

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    I'm not sure the existing electric supply system wants every house to generate its own energy. Why is every new house not covered in solar panels, same with shopping malls and factories? Yet on the other hand happy to take good agricultural land out of production and cover that with panels and call it a solar farm.
     
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  16. Heimdallr

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    Coming out in summer in Norway, think it's out in China now - Neo ET7 with a 150kwh battery. 1044km measured... Obviously in 'perfect' conditions. I've got an ET5 Touring work car with the battery leasing deal, and have been told my 150kwh battery is coming in September. Should get me around 900-1000km on a full charge in summer time.
     
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  17. Heimdallr

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    BT probably didn't want everyone getting mobile phones and not using the boxes and landlines anymore.

    I don't get the negativity, BT ;) Fossil fuels will eventually run out or become too expensive to extract.. better to get the infrastructure sorted now, encourage and promote consumer change and further energy independence.

    It's nicer living, walking and running along a main road that has quieter electric vehicles and where you can breathe healthier air.
     
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  18. balkan tiger

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    Didn't think I was being negative, technology has always advanced but driven by price, efficiency and convenience. Just like to question why things get pushed and promoted. I bought a diesel car after being told my petrol one was killing the kids and diesel was better for the planet. Now a few years later I am being financially punished for having a diesel car and being told that the answer is to go and buy an electric one, but don't question why or else I get called negative, a ludite, a climate change denier, etc.
     
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  19. Heimdallr

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    Very fair points also, Balkan. I meant it in jest, negativity to electrification, I don't think we've discussed other things.

    We are all financially punished for owning a car, whichever fuel, as it's revenue for governments and generally, those that can afford cars can afford to pay it (or will make funds available to)...

    I've got a diesel car also, so not a complete convert yet, as electric doesn't totally match all my needs and the cost of owning the diesel as a weekend/holiday car is not pushing me over the financial limit just yet.
     
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    That was a downright lie and known to be at the time.
     
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