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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Oct 29, 2022.

  1. AlRawdah

    AlRawdah Well-Known Member

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    Buying a new diesel car would be the equivalent of burning cash (even more so than buying a new car of any kind),

    Some relatively good bargains in the second hand market for diesels now though, if you don't mind paying a 10p per litre premium.
     
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  2. steverico

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    Diesel cars are perfect for towing, the obsession with **** EV’s and small engine hybrids could be the death of the caravan and motor home industry around Hull.
     
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  3. Heimdallr

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    Do you own a caravan or motor home, Steve?
     
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  4. The Compositor

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    EV’s have their place, town vehicles etc. looking at sales figures though only 3% of new vehicle sales are EV and 53% of those are traded in for alternative fuel sources. Some bloke who founded an EV magazine 2 years ago has chopped his in for a diesel Range Rover!
     
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  5. TwoWrights

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    Nosey git. :emoticon-0159-musicThe wheels on his house go round and round.:emoticon-0159-music. :emoticon-0125-mmm:


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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  6. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    Ha, no, I asked because i don't. I do pull a 1-2 tonne trailer sometimes and it's easier/safer to drive with the electric because of the instant torque, so was thinking it would be the same with a caravan - although reduced range would of course be an issue.
     
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  7. AlRawdah

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    I have a caravan, as far as I know the only plausible electric tow vehicle is that huge Tesla, which I’m not going to buy for a variety of reasons, including the price tag. And even then you are getting sub-100 miles from a charge, which is next to useless for most weekend or holiday trips.
     
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  8. Ernie Shackleton

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    We're still waiting for the great leap forward as far as EVs towing caravans is concerned.

    Yes, the vehicles are powerful enough and tow smoothly by all accounts but the range is more than halved and charging enroute is a bigger problem than with just an EV as you generally would have to unhitch before charging (and find somewhere to park the 'van in the meantime).

    Another unsolved issue is maximum towing weight. Most EVs that claim to be able to tow specify a maximum weight of around a tonne. A large touring caravan can weigh between 1500 and 2000kg, so as previously mentioned it's either a really expensive Tesla or nowt.
     
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  9. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    Good points.
     
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  10. BlackAndAmberGambler

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    They’ll never catch on. Try charging one when you live on floor 10 in Gatwick House or a mid terraced house down Sharp Street.
     
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  11. Heimdallr

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    Many said the same about mobile phones, the internet and a certain online bookstore, BAG. They got over-promoted and over-valued initially before the tech was right for everyone, the share prices crashed, the tech was adapted and innovated and then grew again.
     
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  12. BlackAndAmberGambler

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    I get that but it’s different trying to get a car into your house to charge it up.
     
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  13. Heimdallr

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    If you can charge up a 800km range in half an hour whilst parked up at the supermarket or a shopping centre carpark, for most (not all) that's a once weekly trip and doesn't matter the situation of your living arrangements.. it's not there yet in the UK, but it's a feasible as connecting 90% of households to the broadband network.
     
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  14. Howdentiger2

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    The infrastructure and not to mention the capacity in the grid in the UK just isn't there to support mass charging and I doubt any government soon will set the money aside to do it ( or power companies ). Even down to the supermarkets, for example I know here in the UK Tesco's insurance company won't allow any more charging points to be installed in any covered or underground/high rise car parks due to fire and safety reasons.
     
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  15. BlackAndAmberGambler

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    Not the same thing at all. Broadband is taken into the property via an underground or overhead copper or fibre cable. The router is inside the property but a car will almost certainly be parked outside. You cannot have charging cables laid across public footpaths or strung overhead to vehicles.
     
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  16. Heimdallr

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    No maybe not. But as you joked in the previous post, is the ultimate aim that car batteries will be removable and small enough to lift and charge within your home in decade or twos time?
     
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  17. Heimdallr

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    Not right now. Dial up capacity wasn't there in 1998 to allow the internet and online shopping/working usage, so the bubble burst. This has changed in 25 years.
     
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    Not convinced but TWT
     
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    They’re building them into street lights, there’s 8,000 of them in London already.
     
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  20. Plum

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    Too late, they've caught on already. They won't suit everyone but they aren't going away.
     
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