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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Yes but no but

    Yes but no but Well-Known Member

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    It should do. They signed Ballard, Hume, Cirkin, Roberts, Clarke…all who will return significant profit and be seen as successful. He’s adapted his approach since singing them and it’s gone south.
     
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  2. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    KLD might take advice but ultimately he holds the purse strings. If he says we need to be sustainable then there's nowt KS can do about it.
     
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  3. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to think Speakman would then leave if he felt it unachievable, so he either agrees with it or he won't go against it and leaves himself open to criticism
     
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  4. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Aye but if you want a manager who isn’t going to say ‘if we change this, or get one of these we’ll win more’ you’ll be looking for someone a bit ****
     
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  5. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    Maybe he thinks it is achievable - maybe he's actually delivering on his remit.

    We've all stayed in jobs where we didn't agree with everything the boss says.

    The idea of leaving himself open to criticism is the space you've given yourself to justify criticism.

    I have no problem with that and I suspect he doesn't either - he'd expect criticism of sporting performance from fans.
     
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  6. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    There's a massive difference between saying things behind closed doors and saying them in public though. A manager who says these things in public is a little disrespectful and unprofessional in my opinion (though the occasional slip or bit of frustration is human).
     
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  7. Pure River Slut

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    What’s he meant to say ‘I signed some absolute ****e’? Never going to happen, not should it. I’m not a fan of his political spin style by the way, among other things. I just think he would never do otherwise. They’re just being PR professionals. It’s modern life and equally not ****ting on his own staff in public is fair.
     
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  8. Billy Batts

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    Spot on. Particularly the last bit. Think Speakman is a stubborn bluffer personally. The warning signs for me were early on when he said Dajaku could play as a striker ffs. Now saying Adil and Rusyn are experienced. Must think we're stupid. Hope he and the recruitment team get it right in the summer but I shan't be holding my breath tbh.
     
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  9. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    I worry the same mind
     
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  10. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Aye that is true. Mowbray crossed the line really. I fully understand his frustration mind. I rant on as soon as I get to the ground about Burstow and Hemir cos I know the outcome must be impossible if the fans are having a go. But when you sound off to the media you’re buggered. Even Beale did it.
     
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  11. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    Criticism when constructive isn't a bad thing if it is taken on board. Your suggesting it's KLD'S way or no way
     
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  12. Pure River Slut

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  13. TeamOfTalents

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    This is Speakmans first DOF role. No track record to bank on when things go off track.
    This may be an expected bump in the road. 5 year plan and all that. Time will tell. KLD won't be afraid to change things of her thinks it necessary.
     
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    Your totally right, Mogga regrets what happened but it was never gonna change
     
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  15. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    That's always the way. There might be discussion or negotiation but at the very end the owner makes the decision and everyone else follows the instructions they've been given.
     
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  16. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the owner needs to listen a little bit more to his staff then?
     
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  17. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    We don't know that he isn't. This conversation is madness. We cannot assume stuff like this at all.
     
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  18. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    So what do we assume? Or indeed what do we discuss?
     
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  19. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    Why? Who gets to decide what the most important objective of it's it's not the owner of the business?

    Why is it the right decision for KLD to spend more on wages and make bigger losses?
     
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  20. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    Maybe to help his sporting director to achieve his targets.

    If KS's target is top 6 but the owner believes he can do that with a budget of 50p, then surely they agree on a common ground that compromises both sides of the argument
     
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