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  1. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    Item in the news this morning about greater understanding of those with migraines. I’m sure there are genuine sufferers but the medical profession needs to diagnose it properly before there’s an entitlement to long term sick pay and benefits.

    We can use the money saved on research why such things occur so frequently on the Fridays before Bank Holidays and so on or when leave has been requested and turned down.
     
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  2. sensiblegreeny

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    I've suffered from migraines albeit not that often these days and only the eye disturbance rather than the headache side of things. The first time it happened to me I was in the middle of an interview with a customer and suddenly couldn't see the paper in front of me for the snow storm. It lasted about 15 minutes and then just disappeared. My wife on the other hand has had them for most of her life. When she gets one it can last for days and is mainly a headache. I have seen her not knowing where to turn or even being able to rest her head on a pillow. They are real notdistant.
     
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  3. notDistantGreen

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    I didn't say they weren't real or that some people don't suffer badly from them. We do though have multiple bandwagons such as ADHD and so on that people who can't be bothered to get out of bed and would rather leech off the taxpayer than work are leaping onto in great numbers. They are aided and abetted by unscrupulous medics (again not all of them) who make a good living giving people the answer they want. All I said was that proper diagnosis should be required.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65534448
     
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  4. Plymborn

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    It is second and in some cases third generation families that are doing what they think is the "norm" and that is sucking the life out of the state system.

    They say ..."my parents have lived like that so I will do the same"... seems to be the thinking behind it....I would suggest in some cases that the day doesn't exist before noon....which is surprising...seeing that some pubs open before that.

    Add to this the claimant's that have decided that they are too poorly to find work after jumping on the post-Covid bandwagon.

    With the way Putin is going at the moment...WW3...is on the horizon and we might have to depend on these people to man our armed forces....good grief Mr Putin please don't start anything before mid-day... coz I'm not available.
     
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    514 refugees/asylum seekers crossed the channel on Wednesday (20/3/2024)....total so far this year is 4043....which is 10% higher than last year and 25% higher for this time in 2022.

    Talk of offering them £3,000 each to go to Rwanda....if the scheme ever happens.

    These are the refugees/asylum seekers that are discovered....there are many more who are not known about....you have evidence all around you in the South East that there are many more just walking down any High Street.....what you don't see walking around are any signs of a Police Force.
     
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    There is a thread on pasoti that I think is worth us all reading....it is titled....."Patience, Memory Lane (and a Hello).

    A very balanced view of PAFC as it is at present....plus some very good follow up comments by others.
     
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  7. notDistantGreen

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    I think you are wrong to categorise all the New Work Shy as being (if I understand you correctly) as being Rab C Nesbitt lookalikes. Increasingly I think they’re well-to-do kids who’ve grown used to having everything they want from the Bank Of Mum And Dad.

    I’d be inclined to kill two birds with one stone. Cut working age benefits for those without real impediments to work while allowing immigrants to work legally, safely and with proper benefits. That’s all they want after all.
     
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    Rab C Nesbitt never crossed my mind....I do agree about the Bank of Mum & Dad....it can be difficult having to work for a living and finding that it hasn't the same perks that Mum & Dad provide.
     
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    Have I walked into some far right national front movement on here or something? Strewth.
     
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  10. notDistantGreen

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    No but shortages of labour are doing two things, neither of them good. It’s budding up wage rates, so fuelling inflation, and it’s increasing Government spending when taxes are already far too high.

    I have no problem with supporting the old, children and the genuinely sick. I don’t see why the state should support those who make a choice not to work. indeed, if we didn’t do the latter, we could better support the former.

    And I find it bizarre that at a time when we’re short of willing labour, there’s such an unholy obsession with immigration. If people want to come here and work, what’s the problem? I mean in proper jobs, not in slave labour conditions in car washes, sweatshop clothing factories or drug dealing, which is what some are forced to do.
     
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    The Metropolitan Police must make more arrests at pro-Palestinian protests because "thugs" are getting away with "utterly unacceptable" behaviour....the Conservative candidate for London Mayor has said.

    Susan Hall said she was "concerned" that officers are failing to "enforce the law" because they do not feel "emboldened enough to go and do their job properly".

    Laying blame for the issue at the feet of Sadiq Khan....she claimed that the mayor of London "sets the tone" for policing but was "soft on crime".

    She said that if elected...the Met Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley would be left in "absolutely no doubt as to where I stood".

    Pro-Palestinians demonstrators' have become a regular fixture in London since the Oct 7 attack by Hamas and Israel's subsequent invasion of Gaza.

    There has been significant criticism of the Met's handling of the events....Placards bearing anti-Semitic slogans and imagery are often spotted on the marches...while protesters have also used controversial chants such as "from the river to the sea"...which some interpret as a call for the destruction of Israel as a state.

    In recent weeks...Rishi Sunak has urged officers to "use the powers" they have to maintain public confidence and "not merely manage these protests...but police them".

    Sunday Telegraph...24/03/2024.

    With the population of London changing ever more to the political left by the influx of refugees and immigrants ....it is becoming hard to see how Sadiq Khan can be out-voted as Mayor of London.

    It is the same with the Ulez tax in London....protesters claim that this the "most unfair tax" should be over-ruled....but Sadiq Khan's rule in the capital will be nearly impossible to beat.
     
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    And your point is? It doesn't alter the fact that the vast majority of protestors are there to try to influence the stoppage of killing thousands of Palestinian civilians and large number of which are children. There will always be some on every protest that have a bit of a difference in agenda. The Police are not there to use as a stiffling force of the population or that Tories personal army because she doesn't like something. The last but one paragraph I will ignore given it's a typical plymborn personal rant.
     
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    You start by saying....Quote "The protests are NOT supporting Hamas in any shape or form".......(your capitals).

    This statement just isn't true is it....if there are people amongst them with an ulterior reason than they need to root them out...or they get painted with the same brush.

    And the personal rant as you say is that Sadiq Kahn is causing trouble with his ULEZ demands....peoples lives are hard enough without him causing extra trouble.
     
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    The personal rant thing was the racist comment before that. London is politically moving to the left because of the influx of refugees and immigrants. Given the majority of the Country appear to be all moving left due to the up and coming election of the Labour Party into Government. The statement about not supporting Hamas is true and you can't show me a banner amongst the crowd that says anything like three cheers for Hamas either. To protest about what Israel is now doing is not showing support for what Hamas did. It is plainly objecting to what Israel is doing. There is an article on the beeb news site tonight you should read. It is about Israel citizens having designs on occupying Gaza and the West Bank and putting settlers there. It also states a desire to have no Palestinians there either. A practice that has been going on long before the attack that started this current conflict.
     
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    Why does it always have to be a racial comment in your eyes....the balance of political belief has swung to the left in London and the influx of refugees and immigrants that is a fact.....why do you have to bring the racial comment up over that ?

    Yes I agree that it is a worrying development that the extreme right wing in Israel are taking the same view as Hamas and its supporters....that settling and taking over Gaza and moving on Palestinians to somewhere else doesn't solve anything.....a two state solution seems so difficult to achieve in this area....but you don't find many Arab countries coming up with a solution.....there attitude seems at time to be..."not in my backyard thankyou".

    These demonstrations in London do need to clean their act up.....until that happens they are open to criticism....and over the weeks there have been banners and chanting supporting Hamas....and that is a genuine case of racialism for sure.....you obviously only see what you want to of course.....typical sensible.
     
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    The right to demonstrate peacefully is vital to a free society.

    Nevertheless, we've seen some environmental activists take action which severely disrupt business and ordinary people's right to do about their business.

    Then there's this, which is just common vandalism.



    I'm sure the vast majority of protesters on both sides of the Gaza crisis are acting morally and legally. However, there are also dangerous individuals involved who would like to cause trouble. On the Jewish side, British fascists have ironically jumped onto the band wagon as an opportunity to get at the Muslim community. On the Palestinian side, there are certainly would-be terrorists hiding behind the skirts of the genuine majority.

    Recent events in Moscow show that the threat from ISIS, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis and their fellow travellers is very real and the police need to enforce the law.
     
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    Because plymborn you always have to put a comment in about where people are from. Ergo you bring in a race element.
     
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    You just see what you want....and have the ability to twist everything into a racist comment....you need to check out why you do that....I would be concerned if I was you.....very strange.
     
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    Maybe if you don't want to be taken that way you need to look more closely at how you phrase something. You do after all have a lot of previous form. I'm just reading whats there and not twisting anything. I call out what is racist is why I do that so no concern to have.
     
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    Not so much how I phrase it....but how you interpret it.
     
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