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If you want to buy illegal weapons in Europe...you go to Ukraine

 

I’m not falling for anything and especially fake news. The journalist who work for that Ukrainian media were also part of the Panama papers exposure . They know corruption.

Every conflict / war - weapons meant for ‘allies’ end up in the black market . It’s a huge global market .

The amount of monetary aid issued to Ukraine is not all being used by legitimate sources . Again, this is not uncommon. Billions go to criminals , corrupt officials etc during every conflict .

Weapons being issued are funding shareholders- endless cycle - issue , reproduce , profit . War is good for profits .

It’s happening now in Ukraine , it happened during the gulf wars , Syria , Afghanistan etc.

It’s happens and it’s not fake news or propaganda .

where there’s money to be had , it gets siphoned off to ****s.

illegal wepons trade:

where do you think rebel / guerrilla groups / terrorist groups get weapons ? how do they fund their causes ?

Syrian rebels with military grade weapons?

3rd world rebels with rocket launchers .

Just because you stand with Ukraine doesn’t mean these things don’t happen.

 

Rubbish

There's no way the largest illegal arms trade in Europe didn't just STOP after receiving billions in new untraceable weapons

 

Ukraine in last two years has revcieved 100 billion in financial aid alone from US and EU. 100 billion .

25 billion from other countries .

125 billion euros

to understand how much that is - a million seconds is 12 days . A billion seconds is 31 years .


Tell me that being used legitimately in the war effort.

 

50 billion euros of military equipment from US and EU .

another 50 billion euros of military equipment from other countries .

All in hands of Ukraine forces ?

 

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-233b-in-ukraine-aid/


https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War


If anyone believes that this is 100% being used legitimately by Ukraine / in hands of Ukraine officials then they’re ****in deluded

it’s not a conspiracy theory

 

Where did I say that money isn't being stolen? Of course it is, as we both agreed traitors appear in every war.

My issue is first with this 'money laundering' claim, it makes no sense. That's not the definition of money laundering.

With regards to western weapons, there is no evidence that the Ukrainian Government is selling weapons to the black market. Zero. There's been ****loads of scrutiny too. The only 'proof' is Russian planted dodgy news stories claiming it, there has been nothing uncovered by Western intelligence.

Russia is the world leader in lying and fake news. Simpletons like Mindoid and Donuts are their target audience, and it definitely works. Their rubles aren't spent in vain.

 

Do you know how much an artillery shell costs? How much a tank costs? How much a missile costs?

The Yanks spent over $2t in Afghanistan, do you think war is cheap?

The US are using this money to replenish their own stock, most of the stuff they've sent over is ancient tech that was going to the scrap. This investment is creating jobs and boosting their economy, it's not exactly a handout. The cash part is a long term investment plan, poor Ukraine will be paying it back for the next 100years+.

The EU has a vested interest in supplying Ukraine, if Russia wins we're next. Anyone that doesn't believe that hasn't been paying attention.

 

Ad hominen

I haven't used a Russian source

I've used

The Pentagon
The President of Nigeria
Interpol
The Finnish Police Force
Polish officials

Meanwhile you just used yourself as a source based on "Naboo Never Lies"

 

Yes guys Russia is going to invade the whole of Europe based on...?

Get a grip you moron

Russia won't even occupy the whole of Ukraine when it wins.

 

FFS nothing you posted is proof you ****wit. It's just hearsay and speculation. Go back to defending nonces.

 

Putin's speeches ffs. He's publicly declared he wants the old USSR borders back.

 

Joe Biden?

 

What part of the USSR were we you simpleton?

 

Replenish own stock - create massive wealth for their shareholders (and whoever they back channelled to win contract )

there is simply no way that all that aid is being used and in hands of the people it was intended for .

Im not arguing the reason for or against the war.

It’s not a fake war but it’s hugely beneficial for a lot of people be it shareholders , corrupt officials , black marketeers , rebels etc

 

We're in NATO you ****ing clown.

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022-document-6e12e093

Putins plan for world domination

 

I said agreed it wasn’t money laundering - it’s reverse - it’s taking legal money and being used for illegal purposes.

As I said , every conflict a weapons end up in the wrong hands . Why would this conflict be any different .

I don’t think rebels in Western Africa have a contact at Lockheed Martin.

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/russia-ukraine-world-war-three-vladimir-putin-b1136411.html

 

To add another point , and to now exit out of Ukraine corruption etc , wish that midget Zelenskyy would stop wearing army fatigues . Arsehole.

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