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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. safc-noggieland

    safc-noggieland Well-Known Member

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    A couple if years old - but l expect the debt hasn’t gone down any. :angry:

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  2. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    And some people say they get Thatcher
     
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  4. FellTop

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    If we ever needed a reminder why our system is knackered this is it. In my opinion of course.
     
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  5. COYCS

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    I have consistently said in posts that the government's of Britain in the 21st century have been poor, and could be going back to Thachers time. Those government's have had the time to make the changes needed. They haven't.

    I believe we are seeing the breakdown in our society, people sleeping on the streets, food banks, people making their living off the benefits system, the hate between differing faiths, youth knife crime, the justice system taken over by Liberals elitism.
    So many countries around the world at odds with one and another. This is the 21st century, not the middle ages.

    World and national organisations failing to act significantly to the world's situations, wars, famine, migration, climate.

    I really fear for the kids.
     
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  6. DH4

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    Yep, welcome to Thatcher's neoliberal utopia. No such thing as society and all that. It can only get worse if we continue down that path as there is nothing left to sell now :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  7. Chunksafc

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    Wtf was that address to the nation? Have I missed something?
     
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  8. OldNewtown

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    What address to the Nation?
    I missed it
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  9. Chunksafc

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    It was on at 5.40. Podium out the lot.

    Then he waffled on
     
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  10. COYCS

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    Quite agree, and after watching Stammer interview after the Rochdale by-election. It will be more of the same, l fear.
     
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  11. FellTop

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    Thought it was good and timely to be honest. Good to see Starmer support it. I suspect Galloway getting in is a tipping point, but moreso the disruption of political process, where party leaders need to bring a clear sense of unity when faced with threats to our way of life from any extreme standpoint.
     
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  12. FellTop

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    Starmer is on the record praising Thatcher. He is an odd character for me. Hoping he is not what I expect, which is Blair mark 2, because we need better. Who knows where better comes from though. We now have Rayner under scrutiny as deputy leader, Starmer under scrutiny as leader. Nothing makes for good reading at the minute.
     
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  13. Chunksafc

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    I've clearly missed something then, really should pay more attention to the news

    Edit that's not me being funny, I just associate the podium and address to the nation bit as massive news
     
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  14. FellTop

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    It has been a grim few days politically in my view. What Hoyle did was fundamentally wrong, but done for very laudible reasons. Politicians are being threatened with violence and local political meetings the same. The impact on our political process though was stark, and open to question on influence being brought. Now we have Galloway romping to victory on a one issue stance and threatening Starmer and Sunak with all sorts. If you havent seen his interview on Sky in response to Sunaks speech, you should, it is woeful and scary in equal measure. His language, his tone, his clear bullying nature is a rotten sight for UK politics. The worry is does he have like minded folk in other constituencies ready to go ahead of the next election. We simply must not allow our politics to be hijacked by people with such one sided agendas. He is already under investigation for claims of intimidation in this by election. I am probably over egging it but I feel we are at a watershed politically at the moment, with a possible threat to the way it is run. We probably arent far away from needing body guards for campaigners in the next election. I am seriously concerned.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    There's little difference in the rhetoric from Braverman, Cleverley, Anderson, etc, and that of Galloway imo.
     
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    I like a lot of your posts marra but think you are over egging the negatives. Think this is a Tory ruse to cover their failings.

    Galloway never wins Rochdale if Labour had stood.
     
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    The PM not calling out Braverman or Anderson for their racist dog whistles or Cleverly for his misogyny enables a lot of this minging rhetoric. Galloway won't do a thing for the everyday folk of Rochdale btw.

    We've had 14 years of deregulation and austerity cuts to public services so shareholders, landlords, billionaire offshore account holders can squirrel away the wealth of the country unchecked. Truss and Kwartang blew a 30billion hole in the economy but the top 2% did well out of it.
    Bozo lowered parliamentary standards to it's lowest level which has enabled the shambles of government since the last election and generated a whole lot of apathy among the public.
     
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  18. gelders pie

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    My exact initial thought. He didn't stand in any other bye election, and has used the demographic of Rochdale to get himself elected, on the strength of one policy. He won't now live there or do anything a local MP would normally do for the constituents.
    If this is how you can become an MP, then is all you have to do is to become very vocal anti monarchy and stand for a Liverpool seat ?
     
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  19. COYCS

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    You could be right, with a 39% turnout, tories in 3rd, and the two major party leaders incapable of working for the moderate majority of people, anything can happen.
     
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  20. FellTop

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    Agree Galloway. Starmer was right to remove support for the Labour contender. The rules need changing as I would have rather Labour allowed to put up an alternative, even at short notice.

    Time will tell about the rest of my post. I hope you are right. I just think when political process is being altered for fear of what might happen to those involved we are on a slippery slope.
     
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