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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Goldhawk-Road

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    George Galloway - beginning of sectarian politics? A thumping victory
     
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    Another example of just what a ****-show the political landscape is these days.
    A vile, anti semitic, terrorist supporter wins a massive majority.
    None of them are worth voting for and our democracy is in a really bad and dangerous place imo.
     
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    Jubilant scenes on the streets of Khan Yunis as the news broke.
     
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    Starmer may need to rethink his sole electoral strategy of “not being a Tory”
     
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    Labour couldn’t even tell the truth as to why they didn’t field a candidate.
     
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  6. Stroller

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    'Good morning Tory stooge, why was Lee Anderson kicked out of your party?'

    'He said something wrong'

    'What was wrong about it?'

    'It was wrong'

    'Yes, but what was it that was wrong?'

    'Well.............it was wrong'

    'Was it Islamophobic?'

    '........................it was wrong'
     
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    I’m not allowed to have an opinion on the man because I don’t live in London.
     
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    Of course you can have an opinion on the man. Complaining about his policies when they won't affect you is more problematic in my opinion. I might not like the policies of the Tory mayor for the West Midlands, but I don't really know because I don't live there.
     
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    Sadiqs actually quite well spoken. I've only heard negative things about him but he actually sounds okay
     
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    He's a genuinely good man in my opinion. Strange that you've only heard negative things - why would that be, I wonder?
     
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    It’s that bloody ULEZ for me. My car is compliant and I rarely drive into London but still… bloody ULEZ and it’s ****ing slightly cleaner air.
     
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    How do you know they won’t/don’t affect me? I work in London at least three days per week, so yah boo sucks to you with knobs on and no return.
     
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    London is the capital city. The West Midlands is not. That gives everyone in the UK a special interest, even if those not coming to, or living in, London, cannot comment from experience.
     
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    I bet the rest of the country are as outraged as you and Uber are about London's ULEZ and the names of the Overground lines. Did you listen to the post I put up of Khan on the James O'Brien show talking about Anderson and Braverman? Both are guilty of hate speech in my opinion.
     
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    Personally, I'd sooner pour petrol in my ears and light it, than listen to O'Blimey and Khan. Have you noticed Khan's about the only guest Jobbie can persuade to come into his LBC studio? The fact is, London has become a crime-ridden ****hole under Khan. There are gangs of young black men with machetes and mopeds, Albanians serving the Russian market and young Asian men mugging wealthy people (often foreign visitors) of their coats, watches, smartphones, and anyone with an expensive bicycle won't hang onto it long. Embassies across the world are advising their citizens visiting London to leave any expensive items at home. A lot of people across the country are ashamed of what their capital city has become. And there's no easy relationship between Khan and Starmer's government in waiting.
     
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    think the same is happening all over the country and i put that down to the tories personally.
     
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    And there we are. Stick to watching 30p Lee on GBeebies from your West Sussex retreat and this is kind of hyperbolic bullshit you come up with.
     
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    The Tories have been useless on crime, I agree. But London is particularly bad, and he and the Met are the problem
     
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    It's reported repeatedly in quality newsheets (you won't see it in Socialist Worker). I don't need to go to Ukraine to know there's a war there. I don't need to live in London to see the crime figures, and the learn they types of crime taking place.
     
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    Here are some facts you won't get on GBeebies....

    According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole.

    When it comes to antisocial behaviour, the crime survey shows London has one of the lowest rates.

    The murder rate in London has also dropped in recent years. Early figures suggest 110 murders were recorded by the Metropolitan police in 2023 – broadly in line with 2022. That’s down from a peak of 153 in 2019, and is also lower than the 120 recorded in 2015 – Boris Johnson’s last full year as mayor.

    Contrary to some claims made by conservative political activists, there are far fewer murders in London (12 per 1 million people) compared with US cities. New York recorded more than 46 murders for every 1 million people in 2023, while Chicago had more than 220, and Philadelphia more than 250.

    While London’s knife crime figures are relatively high compared with much of England, the capital is not the worst area when it comes to stabbings. NHS figures show that in Cleveland and the West Midlands police areas more hospital admissions for stab wounds were recorded than in London when compared to overall population sizes.

    The latest statistics, for the year ending March 2023, show there were 12 firearm offences for every 100,000 residents in London. That puts it behind Gloucestershire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Northamptonshire, West Yorkshire, the West Midlands, South Yorkshire and Cleveland (which had the most gun crime for every 100,000 people: 33 offences).

    In the past couple of decades, gun crime has fallen across England and Wales – and London has done particularly well on this front. Back in 2007-08, the capital recorded 44 firearms offences for every 100,000 people. That dropped to 24 in the first year of Sadiq Khan’s mayoralty, and has since fallen to 12 in the latest year of data.


    Fact check: has Sadiq Khan really overseen a crime surge in London? | Crime | The Guardian

    Why aren't you shouting about crime levels in the West Midlands?
     
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