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Match Day Thread Sunderland AFC v Swansea City – Saturday 24th February 2024 - KO 15:00

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Feb 21, 2024.

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  1. Mackem 10.1

    Mackem 10.1 Well-Known Member

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    They were really poor first half, but he changed it and we were a lot better 2nd half, had a lot of the ball but didn't threaten enough
     
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  2. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    The ‘model’ doesn’t need scrapped, it needs tweaked.

    At the head of that you need a ****ing ballsy coach who knows how to build teams.

    More concerning is from this summers batch only Rusyn and Seelt looks like they could be impactful at this stage.
     
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  3. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    Seasons well gone imo, Dodds tried to be too clever yesterday and the players were just all over the shop.
    The amount of times there midfield got the ball and they had 10 yards of space at least all around them was shocking.
    Better in the second half but that was very very poor. We definitely need a bit of a figure head in there to keep everyone calm.
     
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  4. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    100% agree mate, would be seen as ambitious and might cost us a couple of quid, but like you I think we are perfect for him
     
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  5. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it was the formation as much as it was the tactic of the fluid front three, nobody knew what they were doing and there were gaps everywhere especially on the left. It was the same formation that worked against Leeds wasn't it? Difference then was everyone knew their role.

    I think we could try two up top with a high press with the players we've got and it wouldn't be a problem for us.
     
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  6. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    We want a head start on next season now. We need to hit the ground running.

    We will, cos that’s what we do, keep convincing ourselves fat lady isn’t singing, but if we honest, she finished, had her dinner, had a shower, a good kip and is now on holiday.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Cooper's reputation rises as Nuno's Forest slips further down.
     
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  8. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    It does. Not enough to make him unobtainable though.

    If we somehow get the ‘right man at the right time’ for the first time since Keane we could really soar.

    If we **** it again them the downside is terrifying.
     
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  9. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I have been calling for greater flexibility in the model for well over a year.
     
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  10. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Our club will always be a bit ‘basket case’ and we wouldn’t want it to not be really, it’s a part of our DNA and culture.

    Doesn’t mean we can’t occasionally be smart and get it ****ing right.
     
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  11. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    I'm hoping we see that flexibility in the summer. That doesn't mean I want millions and millions thrown at it

    We can't keep putting all our eggs in the same youth basket, there needs to be a sensible mix and that should be achievable with selling one or 2 each year and adding to the squad with a mix of ready now and potential
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Clubs like Everton and Newcastle are finding that success is difficult to buy/find ...

    .... only a dozen clubs are successful every year and sadly they often tend to be the same ones.

    Clubs dropping from the PL are becoming increasingly likely to be promoted straight back.

    Finishing third in the Championship just puts you into a lottery that, if you don't win, can mean you're in financial trouble.

    But we are a big club, with great support, and have become somewhere players are less likely to turn down.

    We need to capitalise on that and hire a proven coach, simple as that ...

    ... except picking the right one isn't that simple.

    Moyes was proven <doh>
     
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  13. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Even he was ‘wrong time’ though, bitter after 2 failures.
     
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  14. RTB

    RTB Well-Known Member

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    Official Highlights

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  15. 123Daveyboy

    123Daveyboy Well-Known Member

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    Definite improvement yesterday, we didnt concede from a set piece :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  16. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    I have scribbled down a couple of 442 options, or 4411 that might just be worth trying. It feels a dated system these days, but might help us in the short term. A simple system which players should understand.
     
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  17. samwise_new

    samwise_new Well-Known Member

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    cheers again RTB...

    read through most of the posts and finding it hard to disagree with most, dodds at least tried to shake it up a bit with 4 changes (two had to be made) and different formation/tactics, unfortunately he struck out on every aspect and swansea had a clear first half to basically keep attacking...will be the easiest 45 they have played.

    dodds did try to change things around during the game rather than leaving it till half time but the damage was done and it could have been much worse.

    'the model' keeps getting brought up, i have said i like the way the club is doing the recruitment now and i stick by that as on their day (fewer of them lately) this is an exciting squad to watch...but, there has to be some flex in there and to my mind it needs to be in the middle, players with that awareness that can not be trained/coached into lads, it only comes with experience of game time as it develops like some kind of 'sixth sense' plus the ability to keep himself consistent and not put way too much into one game then have two or three where he just does not have the energy.

    we have seen dodds 'do the job' much better and with clarke/roberts/ballard back and raring to go plus hopefully a couple more of the 'long termers' in the squad as well we might just finish the season with some hope for next season.

    MotM goes to rusyn, he always tries, always is running, never shirks a tackle, just wish he was getting better service.
     
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  18. Magnus

    Magnus Well-Known Member

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    don't think KLD goes unless he gets his money he wants, he might not take the rest of the shares, but one thing im sure of is we are in for a massive summer, and i'm feeling positive about it got a little feeling we are really going to go for it next season i think this season has been more about building the squad up and next one go all out, i think try and enjoy the end of this season, because i recon we are all in for a total different ball game next season and a one to remember ......
     
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  19. Young Ted

    Young Ted Well-Known Member

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    I know there’s a couple of lads on here that’s done coaching can you explain for me why we don’t leave a man on the half way line for the oppositions corners,everyone yesterday Swansea had all there outfield players in and around our box. Sorry if this has already been mentioned I just skipped through the last 15 pages or so
     
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  20. Whittylad

    Whittylad Well-Known Member

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    Have they put you in charge of selling next year's season tickets. :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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