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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome
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    Aye, unless by some miracle Real come in for him, I cannot see him going anywhere but Liverpool.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    nope.

    tell you why.

    bayern will sign half his team out from under him. it's what they do.
     
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  3. Bodinki

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    possibly, but Real, Bayern and Liverpool would all offer him 3 times the salary he is on at Leverkusen.
    Maybe he will put loyalty above merry bushels of cash, but guys like that are few and far between these days, especially in the world of football.
    EDIT: and What MITO said, if they go on to smash the league and have an invincible season, the chances of Leverkusen keeping that squad together are next to nil. When Bayern, Real, City, Chelsea, PSG etc come swooping in offering silly money for their players, the board will roll over like an alsatian.
     
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  4. Zanjinho

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    Of course, but a large part of the credit will go to Klopp.

    Bit like Shanks built the club and Bob took it to another level.
     
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  5. Zanjinho

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    Also post of the reason Bayern want Alonso as manager; weakening an opponent is offset of their recruitment criteria
     
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  6. Zanjinho

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    If Liverpool win the PL, Klopp will become the first manager to beat Pep to two league titles

    If Arsenal will the league, Arteta will become the youngest PL winning manager

    If (when) Man City win the league, Pep will become the first manager to win for English League titles in a row.

    One of them will happen
     
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  7. The IncREDibles

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    If not bayern then certainly the PL. They already lost Diaby last season to Villa.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    it's the equivalent of saying de zerbi should stick with Brighton and build while chelsea come stealing all the staff and players.

    if a manager is to be judged solely on results and no account of circumstances is made then they'd all be sacked every time they lose a couple.

    imagine city sacking pep cos laporte got injured. crazy right?
     
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  9. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Problem is you don’t know when chance to move to a bigger club with no disrespect to Leverkusen comes about. If he stays has a really bad year he may go from looking at Bayern and Liverpool to suddenly only chelsea or United level.

    Add in that like Dortmund, in Germany you lose your best players to Bayern if teams from abroad don’t come in for them so you end up having to almost rebuild every year.

    He may want that challenge but I think it’s a bigger risk to stay and try compete. Coukd quite easily go out the CL in groups and be 6th by Christmas
     
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  10. Germlands Nozzer

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    Nagelsmann was there 18 months or so?

    And was fired because Bayern were worried they might not win the treble...
     
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  11. organic red

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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I had thought he was only there a wet weekend. I have now looked again and yes he was there 18months. a title and a super cup or two

    i thought the sacking was extremely harsh given the win ratio he had
     
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  13. The IncREDibles

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    The nagelsmann sacking was more political than results based
     
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  14. johnsonsbaby

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    Guardiola would turn it down. Alonso is Basque and although he played for Real, his 'dream job' (if you like) would be Barcelona - and Liverpool <whistle>
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

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    He played for Real madrid though so inevitably he has Real DNA and will be attracted back there if he is elite enough.

    Remember zidane is french algerian descent so should have not affinity to madrid but played there so was always going to be attracted back there.

    Its utterly inevitable as the career trajectory.


    JUST... LIKE.... KLOPP should have gone to bayern. It would take xabi saying **** that no interest and to find two men in the same century cut from the same cloth?
     
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  16. johnsonsbaby

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    Some good points. Alonso has never praised Real like he has Liverpool so DNA, I don't know. He said he's bringing his son up as a Liverpool supporter (he was born in Liverpool).

    I'm not speculating on our next manager until Klopp leaves.
     
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  17. Zanjinho

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    Or have we just not seen it from our bubble?
     
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  18. Milk..

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    He may do a Gerrard- after Champions League 2005 "How can I leave after winning" and not leave Leverkusen if he wins the league. As much as the prevailing wisdom is that he will want to move on because he's already won that... managers don't tend to leave their posts just because they won (unless offered something better, which I think we are... but he may not want to move, he may want to continue what he started). Klopp didn't want to leave when he won the Premier League, despite the fact anyone would have wanted him... including German National team.

    So we're all assuming he'll want to leave, but I doubt that's 100% clear. But let's continue that assumption: I'm going to rule Munich out of the running, why would he go to a team he just beat if he has other bigger teams calling for him? He might as well stay with Leverkusen over going to Munich. (unless he loses league)

    Madrid's advantages:
    In Spain, Richer than the others, He played for them. Most storied history of three clubs. Has Mbappe and Bellingham the two biggest names "of the near fututre"

    Liverpool's advantages:
    He played for us. Second most storied history of three clubs.

    Barcelona's advantages:
    They're in Spain.

    I think it's likely if he got an offer from all three this summer, Madrid would be the biggest draw- we would be #2 choice. That said Madrid job isn't readily available right now. As to whether he would leave us for Madrid after a year? Who's to say. I think a lot of that would depend on his experiences with us.

    For those saying he'll be itching to leave Leverkusen because he wins the Bundesliga, you think he will want to leave us if he wins the premier league? Or is that different because?????
     
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  19. Milk..

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    I think that that is far more likely.
     
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  20. Gerrardsitchyear

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    Why? Barca is Catalan
     
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