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  1. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12
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    And we made another bigger 20million pound loss.

    Write offs from the owners may have helped... waiting for Roller to tell me what it means
     
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    looks as though we have just scraped in.

    It should be better next year
     
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    Time to name each floodlight, the Willock light only shines twice a season, the Beale light, never to shine again, the Barton light, never dull but not too bright and the not 606 floodlight, always on
     
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  4. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12
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    also the floodlight in the corner, that turns off when the oppo get a corner kick
     
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  5. Quite Possibly Raving

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    I'll go through them now. I enjoy this every year weirdly.
     
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    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    Quick takeaways from me:

    - Spent £1.9m on players last season
    - Payroll down from £27m to £25m (£22m not including NICs contributions)
    - Shareholders put in £30.5m last season (kudos - as I always say, they've been idiots, but benevolent idiots)
    - £7m left to pay on the FFP settlement

    Ownership bit is interesting. Now is:
    - 51.61% Ruben
    - 20.96% Richard Reilly
    - 18.96% Mittal family
    - 0.15% minority owners

    Confess I'm struggling to see how a £20m loss this year, £24m in '22 accounts, and £4m loss in '21 (total, £48m loss across rolling 3-year period) makes us compliant with FFP allowed losses - which is £39m. Unless there are deductibles in the last two years which don't count towards FFP (like the £1.2m per year we pay for the FFP settlement) that I can't spot in the accounts at a fast reading.

    Next set of accounts will be very tricky as the £4m loss from three years ago rolls out of our accounts, and we start with £44m of losses before whatever we lose this year. Hence the various Mittal stand etc I guess. New championship TV deal will help a lot if we get there....
     
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    Lots of deductibles including the training ground and youth team so I’m sure it’s grand.
     
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    This year...
     
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    Have to admit I just thought I missed something that is blatantly obvious to everyone else regarding the £39m leeway for next season. But the £4m loss dropping out means we can only make a profit of £3m next season as the last two seasons total £42m (and having made a loss every year since 1996). Looking forward to being illuminated and educated.
     
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    Could we let 100 of our 129 players managers and coaches go?
     
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    Just pray ManUre come in for Eze at £100 million...
     
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    Not all of the losses count towards FFP. Training ground, academy, existing FFP fine and perhaps other items will be extracted for FFP purposes.
     
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    Many other clubs in the brown stuff...

     
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  16. Quite Possibly Raving

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    As Stroller says, not all losses count towards FFP, and I'd hope we'd have heard from the club / EFL by now if we'd breached FFP given the accounts are out. Training ground / youth team etc are deductible.

    But that doesn't change your underlying point that next year's accounts [i.e. this season] have very little wiggle room at all. We've obviously done some naming deals etc to help, and a massive Eze transfer this summer would really really help. I expect Chair to go in the summer too. as

    The new championship TV deal will help a lot, but that kicks in next season - for 24/25 - so we'd need to survive next season somehow and then perhaps be in the clear on FFP.
     
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    Not a single profitable club
    How does football survive as a business
    I suppose as long as the tax man and banks get their money no one cares
     
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    Heard Simon Jordan say this morning that a millionaire businessman once told him if you want to support a football club, buy a season ticket, it’s cheaper :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    Some more detail, not pretty...

     
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    It really seems we are in the clear this year just.

    Next year will also be a struggle but
    1. Can we sell any players,
    2 will we stay in Championship and get the improved money
    3.Will we get a windfall from Eze moving on.
    4. Have the cuts we have already made keep us safe.

    Let's just now concentrate on staying in he Championship
     
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