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The soon to be midfield dilemma.

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Kyle?, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. EmirAleks

    EmirAleks Well-Known Member

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    I am sure Wenger will build his future midfield around Wilshere. So Arteta and Ramsey will be rotated, and Jack will only be rested if needed. Rosicky is in fine form, i hope he will p;ay as well. And I secretly hope the "sublime" Diaby will have as few games as possible.
     
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  2. Topgun

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    "The Sublime diaby" imagine if he was Primelime rather than substandard!
     
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  3. The Bonstar Wandit

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    Jack will be introduced slowly. I can't see him playing many 90mins before mid-Feb to March. There SHOULD be rotation on almost a game by game basis so between the 3 they play 2 miss one. That would keep them all fresh right up to the end of the season, but does kinda break down the partnerships a little bit.
     
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  4. EmirAleks

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    I gave up hope.
     
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  5. theHotHead

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    Read my previous post in this thread, then come and argue with me.
     
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  6. cjuliennech1

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    Clearly you have missed the majority of arsenal's games then because song displays great technique time after time. And he is a great tactician because his positioning to intercept passes is second to none. There is always this stigma attached with holding midfielders that they are lacking in technical ability and can provide nothing going forward. Well look at song and he shows that their is an exception to the rule, he isn't like your clumsy english players, he is an extremely smart player and has developed his game at some pace. He used to be a little rash in his decision making but he has learned and the amount of times he has retained the ball in threatening areas is ridiculous and it constantly goes un-noticed.
     
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  7. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    Song frequently doesn't make the pass when playing out from in front of the back 4. His accuracy is suspect, and gives it away.
    Tackling used to frighten me too- he was really clumsy - recently much better.
     
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  8. cjuliennech1

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    Nah i think that he is seriously under-rated and over-looked. I suppose that most player who play as a holding player don't get the credit they deserve because they are not scoring the goal or assisting but song's work is vital for the other players to produce their best going forward. He wins the ball back on countless occasions and he is a fantastically gifted player with quick feet and he keeps the ball very well, a lot better than walcott for example.
     
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  9. Topgun

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    Its amazing how people dont notice the defensive work that Song does. My brother is one of the people who underrates Song, so in recent matches when watching the live coverage I have taken to stating each time its Song who makes a tackle, interception or plays a key pass and it is almost constant. If you dont pay attention to the individuals its easy not to recognise the contribution people like Song make. He has been awesome this season and is vital to the team, and imo would be my first selection in the midfield teamsheet.

    I will however concede that due to his lack of pace he does often get booked for tripping people from behind, but his all round game is so good, its something I can put up with!
     
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  10. theHotHead

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    I will go on record as saying that song is the least technical of defensive midfielders I have seen at a top 10 club.

    You could put any big "stopper" in the arsenal team and they would look much more defensive than what we have previously had to compare them with:

    Diaby, Denilson, Ramsey, Wilshere, Fabregas, Rosicky.

    FFS - none of them have any size and Diaby isn't strong for his height. It is all relative Because Song is the most defensive that hardly makes him good. Keepers in bottom of the league clubs always look better than they are because they are always under the kosh.

    Song is a pap footballer. Look at the DMs we had before him, he isn't fit to lace Diarra's boots .. let alone Flamini or Gilberto's !!! And I will maintain my point, I've played with/against far better CMs than Alex bloody Song !
     
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  11. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    oh dear Hothead. we want your opinion on Song - why avoid saying what you think? <laugh>
     
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  12. cjuliennech1

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    thehothead you really have no clue about football if you think that song doesn't have any technical ability. I would have him in my team ahead of mikel or carrick or fletcher or lucas or adam. He is a brilliant player and you really need to open your eyes because that comment about the top ten clubs is laughable, its ridiculous how non-sensical some people's comments are. He isn't a "big stopper" he reads the game exceptionally well and ok so he might give away the odd foul but he technically brilliant and especially with cesc and nasri leaving and arteta coming in song has been great in holding the midfield together and his performances have allowed others to fit in and play their natural game.
     
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  13. theHotHead

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    It is clear to me that anyone who rates Song does not know anything about technical footballers.

    If you think Song is technical then your knowledge of football is lacking and I can only assume you never played football to any kind of level. I've never even seen him kick the ball with a bit of "check". Don't know what that is or had to look it up ... you make my point precisely !! If a player cannot even strike the ball with "check" he is NOT technical.

    And Darren Fletcher is a much better baller than Song, he isn't overly technical, meat and veg footballer, but he is the glue in the Man U team .. or WAS the glue in the Man U team, over the past 5 or so seasons Fletcher was always called upon for their big games, games where Man U beat us without extending themselves.
     
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  14. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    Lol...do the spuds have any right to be talking?
     
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  15. SpursDisciple

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    None of that is sad <laugh>
     
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  16. theHotHead

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    Wasn't that beating I gave you on your board enough ? Why are you over here ? You will never win an argument I am involved in, I am too smart for you so I suggest you move your little pea brain off our board and go back where the IQs are at a more manageable level. And go back a few pages on your board and find all the threads which show plenty of cracks at your ****hole of a club, from all the people who don't like Harry Redknapp.

    The rest of what you wrote I won't bother responding to, a third of the season played and you are getting excited, I forget it's been soooooo long since you were above us in the league, you're getting all excited aren't you, like an adolescent with a case of the premature ejaculations huh !!
     
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  17. The Bonstar Wandit

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    I'd just like to point out that Arsenal's win ratio with Song in the team is better than it is with van Persie in the team. Song is actually more important to the team than van Persie according to the stats.

    But let's not let the good ol' facts get in the way here. Carry on slating...
     
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  18. Topgun

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    1) its the end of the season that counts
    2) its a City player not a Spurs player that has put you where you are.
     
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  19. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Regardless of the stats - it's clear that Song has been really influential in midfield. The shift he put in against Dortmund was one of the best I've seen from any player in his position.
     
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  20. Jamrag

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    http://www.not606.com/showthread.ph...ut-being-upbeat-about-our-chances-this-season

    posts #18, 29, 32, 39 and on and on..... Harmony amongst the shadow dwellers <doh>
     
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