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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Gone For A Walk, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. Asterix

    Asterix Well-Known Member

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    So far,

    ****ting on someones carpet, in itself not a crime really, is it?
    homophobic chant - by enclosing it in quotation marks does that excempt you from accusations of hate speech?
    Racism

    None of those are what she was banned for.
     
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  2. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    So many decades ago, saying her sexuality was a mental illness, needing treatment and putting her in an asylum, was a fact. Beliefs and views change.
     
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  3. Cityzen

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    I don’t think this woman would have much effect on the person whose complaint about reading her posts on social media meant she would feel unsafe in a crowd of over 50,000 but there you go. It was the actions afterwards, prying into her personal life, following her, filming her etc which was somewhat disconcerting. The FSU certainly thinks so, describing it as Stasi like.
    We are obviously not going to agree but it is still, for the moment, a country where we are allowed to have differences of opinion.
     
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  4. Cityzen

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    Not in the country of Newcastle’s owners. And others in that region.
     
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  5. Asterix

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    People have risked more than a stadium ban when they chose their lifes battles.

    As much as someone was offended by her comments, perhaps she was so offended she had to say something?
     
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  6. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    Well, until someone logs on and deletes our conversation, not long after unlocking a previously locked thread to make their own comment, before locking it again, preventing anyone else having a comment.
     
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  7. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    A Preston fan got banned from the stadium a couple of years ago for making legal, but derogatory comments about the Royal Family.

    No Daily Mail article, no free speech campaign, no Richard Littlejohn recycled opinion piece. Life's not fair. She was told to stop and didn't. Now suffers consequences. If she wants to live in a society where transppl aren't accepted, she can move to Saudi Arabia.
     
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  8. Cityzen

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    As a lesbian moving to Saudi Arabia would not be advisable.
     
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  9. Asterix

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    You were doing ok, and then ya blew it. A lesbian who dislikes the trans community should move to Saudi. That should work well for her????
     
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  10. Cityzen

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    I thought the same at the time.
     
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  11. Charon

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    he said he was going to give a Nazi salute in the Queen's honour on her death during the minutes silence at the match - hardly a derogatory remark unless you think that's ok really
     
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  12. Heimdallr

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    As far as I'm aware, it's not illegal or a crime to threaten to make a Nazi salute. It may be illegal to do one (although in jest, is legal still or not?).
     
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  13. Heimdallr

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    There was nothing to blow. She supports and gives her income to a club that is ultimately owned and financed by a kingdom that doesn't believe she should exist. Instead of campaigning about this, she's chosen to fight a battle against the relatively inoffensive social battleground of the moment, which is trans ppl. She needs to examine her priorities and now will have Saturday afternoons, and Monday -friday evenings, depending on the TV schedules, to do so.
     
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  14. Cityzen

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    She posted on social media not the club’s site. She has also campaigned for gay and bisexual rights. It was Premier League investigators who followed her and took the decision. They were discussing this on TV this morning. The Premier League panel was originally set up to investigate racism.
     
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  15. Heimdallr

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    I don't have Facebook or twitter, so will have to concede if my interpretation is wrong, but I understood it that she was replying directly to club online diversity initiatives, on their Facebook page and twitter profile, hence why she was reported.
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    I assumed this was referring to me, so I just took a look and assume you're talking about my post about Burnsy? I didn't realise that thread was locked and we don't have to unlock threads to post on them and if unless we do they remain locked, there was no intention to post something people couldn't respond to.
     
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  17. TwoWrights

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    Beliefs and views do, and often should,change. Often though the problem is the pendulum doesn't swing to the middle, (innuendo entirely optional) it swings too far to the opposite direction. Hey ho. :emoticon-0125-mmm:


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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  18. Gone For A Walk

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    Beliefs and values can change over time.
    Biological facts & reality can't change.
     
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  19. Kalman

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    If that Afghani refugee with half his face melted off who attacked that mother and her kids called someone a tranny on Twitter, they'd have found him by now.
     
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  20. SydneyTiger14

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    Not entirely sure biology has a whole lot to do with gender which isn't the same thing as sex.
     
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