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  1. originallambrettaman

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    I’ve had quite a lot of mates who were heroin addicts, the odd one got themselves off it, some died from it, some have learned to just function while having it.

    None of them started taking heroin to escape anything, they all just took progressively stronger drugs for recreation and ended up stuck on that ****.
     
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  2. Ric Glasgow

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    I had a young cousin from Driffield,great kid was our John,salt of the Earth,worked all his life but after years of persistent pain in his hips and back due to arthritis and taking prescription drugs (that did nothing for his pain),decided to delve into something a bit stronger...Heroine.

    Lost his job,his old man disowned him,passed away in his sleep at the age of 48.

    I find it difficult to judge people who have slipped into the world of drugs,it's not always as simple as it appears.
     
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  3. Jim the Tiger

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    I actually thought the bloke in grey was someone I knew, a female smackhead. I can see on other videos it's a bloke behaving like a right nob.
     
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  4. Jim the Tiger

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    I thought the one in the grey tracksuit was my sister. Disowned her 20 years ago when she robbed my kids money boxes to buy heroin. Since then she has been in jail for dealing to an undercover copper in queen's Gardens (led to my mother having her front door blown in during a search) and has been kidnapped by that Scouse J and his gang in Liverpool for trying rob them.

    When they say Heroin ruins lives it is an understatement. The fact is it is usually the people who have to pick up the pieces that it affects the most.

    This was the kidnapping thing... https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/woman-held-captive-three-days-12072791
     
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  5. Phinius T Bookbinder

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    Just appalling to have to deal with this in anyone’s life.
     
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    It seems very strange adding a like to this post. A terrible tale.

    Many years ago the proverbial brick outhouse was selected to play RU for Yorkshire Colts, had trials with the national team. Fast forward and three years later he was a lifeless wreck, sat in a darkened room, tended to by his distraught mother. That was the short sharp lesson I needed. If that is what that **** does to him, it will kill you lad.
    Another mother, I was in digs at her house, With the strict proviso her son was not to be let in. He had been recently released from prison, charges brought by her. He had started with the odd quid going missing from her purse. Then moved on to selling items from the house. She shopped her own son. He was later arrested living rough in a garage.
    The baby boy, born to a heroin addict, hey, why stop just cos I'm pregnant.

    Yes, it is usually other people that have to cope, to find a way. Those who think further forward than where the next 20 quid, or however much it is, for the next high.

    I was given ketamine as a general anaesthetic 40 years ago. Believe when I say, if every poster sold everything they owned, put into a pot and said, all yours if you take it again, my answer would be, Elon Musk does not have enough money for that. And it is a recreational drug, of choice, for some???
     
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  7. BlackAndAmberGambler

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    **** that just put them down.
     
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  8. Jim the Tiger

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    I have taken drugs as a younger bloke, trying to fit in mainly. The feeling of guilt, depression and anexity I had for days afterwards is not something I would ever want to risk again. People with addicitions need help but the resources are so stretched it is a problem that is out of control now and in my opinion will never be turned around.

    The thing that upsets me most out of the stories you hear, such as yours, is that there is more often than not a child or two who get dragged into that world. They have no choice but to live with the hand that is dealt to them.
     
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  9. askewshair

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    Absolutely. Less than 1% of the adult population have been in care, and yet the prison population is made up of 25% who are care experienced. Stats relating to health, education, employment, offending and presumably substance addiction etc are all similarly disproportionate
     
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  10. brownbagtiger

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    Addicts (booze, drugs, gambling) generally have measurable changes in their brain that means the behaviour becomes compulsive and continues even when there are bad consequences. It’s not just a matter of willpower, there’s a whole complex series of psychological and physical needs to be addressed to get success. Many are self medicating for undiagnosed mental health issues, some have brought on mental health issues through their addiction. Many are physically dependent and can’t stop without medical assistance- the DTs can be fatal.

    you’ve got to look at the whole life of the person. No point putting effort into drying out an alcoholic if they’re still dealing with a **** life and walking past the boozer every day. If it’s drugs, it’s cheaper for the taxpayer to keep them out of the criminal justice system and to treat as a health issue which is why methadone and bupe are prescribed so they don’t have to steal to get funds for their dealer. Funds are limited in addiction support services and they tend to go to the people they think have the best chance of success (ie have a life and family to go back to out of the swamp).

    It can and does happen to anyone.
     
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  11. TwoWrights

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    I drove past Castle Buildings earlier today, (eventually, as the traffic light from Ferensway to castle street were only letting four cars at a time out) and it's nice to see all the old scaffolding is now down and work is starting on refurbishing the building. Not so nice to see that many of the downstairs windows have no covering on them, a very tempting target for arsonists methinks. :emoticon-0125-mmm:


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    You've obviously never driven in Manchester, where red lights are only advisory and not taken seriously.
     
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    I have driven there, try jumping the red from Ferensway to Castle Street and you'll be phoning a breakdown truck and an ambulance. :emoticon-0125-mmm:


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  14. LeftSaidFred

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    I was driving in Panama City a couple of weeks ago for a few days. There are basically no traffic lights and its a complete free-for-all on junctions and roundabouts - absolute mayhem and you have to basically aggressively push your way out across any kind of intersection or you ain't getting anywhere. It took some getting used to but somehow in a whole week I didn't see one accident. Apparently Mexico City is even worse according to my nephew.
     
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    Driving in Naples is interesting.

    However once you've worked out what the lights mean it's a little more straightforward.

    Green means Go
    Amber means accelerate
    Red means accelerate whilst shouting out the window.


    Simples.
     
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    I’ll raise you dual carriageways in Cairo. Apparently the intersections / gaps in the middle are to allow you access to drive on the wrong side of the road for maybe 3 or 4 such gaps for a simple overtaking manoeuvre when a camel and cart is straddling 2 lanes or, on at least two occasions that I recall, just when you’re a bit bored of that side of the road.

    I was in taxis not driving admittedly, but it didn’t seem to make any difference whatsoever to either my drivers or people coming the other way whether there was anyone actually coming before they hopped carriageways.
     
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    Took a taxi as a sightseeing ride in Panama City. It was basically one huge game of chicken. Loved it.
     
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    Cuba in the 1980's. Those old 1950's US limos just don't have brakes or shock absorbers. Waiting at red lights watching a cadillac pogo-ing towards your back end and praying it'll stop is a unique experience!
     
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    I went to Taipei in the 80's and they were trying to improve their international image, so banned tuktuk taxis from the airport and gave them all cars instead. Unfortunately, nobody had given them any driving lessons and they just picked one gear and stuck with it. It was raining heavily when I arrived and my driver tried to get from the airport to the Sherwood hotel in first gear (nearly thirty miles). He crashed twice but nobody seemed bothered, nobody got out the car, they just pushed each other out the way and carried on.
     
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    Better fun as a pedestrian in China, in Zhengzhou , walked to a roundabout under an overhead road , tons of traffic all converging , horns going all filtering no anger and you just walk through it and nobody bothers you , the energy and the filtering had to be seen to be believed ! I emerged unscathed and invigorated LoL
     
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