There is going to have to be a sense of open mindedness for the new manager and an acceptance that they will come with bigger risks than klopp did.
This. None of us want this, but it is what it is and we move on when the time comes and create a new chapter. We as fans have to be open minded and very careful not to just compare the new regime to the last 8 years as it'll not help one bit. One thing for certain is that he'll be leaving us in good shape and not in a right old mess.
This is why I said I'd rather see a (relatively) unknown manager on an upward trajectory, willing to work within the confines that he will find here. None of the established pantheon who do the rounds of the big clubs appeal to me very much.
that's all you can ask from anyone. he's give absolutely everything and i think we can all see him wearing down. People have even raised this before (I think JB did a couple times) Everyone loves der klopper, if we love the guy that much we should not want to break the man. thats my view. Yes were are in decent shape. I think on the crest of a wave it can be easy to go overboard how good it is. 1. The keeper school is producing good young players. Is achterberg and tafferel etc staying? I don't know. 2. The academy is buying players and bring in players on scholarships from around england and it looks great. Alex Inglethorpe as director there has worked for 5 or 6 years to start delivering these players. you cannot do this overnight. Whoever is doing that job of finding the players has done a good job over a long time. If you look at it McConnell - arrived 2019 Bradley - Arrived 2019 Mrozek - arrived 2020 Bajcetic arrived 2021 Scanlon - arrives 2021 Gordon arrived 2021 Doak arrived 2022 kone doherty arrived 2022 Nyoni- arrived 2023 Miscuir arrived 2023 Nallo - arrived 2023 Theres a pretty big acceleration of the club going to buy young players of different ages and positions and we are seeing a multi year approach to loans, cups, opportunities given (preseason etc) Are these kids going to be top class stars? maybe, maybe not. But the club is clearly employing a strategy here. 3. Squad strength. Theres a lot of bodies, because there is we can compete in general. are they actually good enough compared to the European elites. Not really. endo isn't that level for example. Right now we have developed the following second 11 in effect (football never works like this but we have them) Kelleher Bradley Gomez quansah Tsimikas Elliott Endo Gravenberch Doak Gakpo Diaz firsts Alisson trent Konate VVD Roberston Szoboszlai Macallister jones Salah Jota Nunez kids Davies Ramsay/Davidson Nallo Pinnington Beck/Chambers/Scanlon nyoni McConnell Clark Gordon Danns/Figueroa Koumas/Kone doherty/ahmed I'm sure a new man coming in might look at that and be thinking he wants one or two changes but he shouldn't was 5 or 6. if he does we are making a mistake with the appointment. (IMO) Theres always room to improve there but you'd want someone looking to improve on a very elite level imo. 4. The club with CL football next season will be in a far better position financially. I am waiting to see our accounts for 22/23 but i am assuming 23/24 will have a lower revenue. 2019/20 -£9.5m (covid adjusted) 2020/21 £69.1m 2021/22 £7.5m 2022/23 ??? (5th in the league out of CL in last 16) Projected Revenue for 2022/23 £594.3m - every other club in the top 20 grew by over 100mil (from nowhere) as they prepare for the new UEFA revenue regs. I have strong suspicion a LOT of that is fake. We we have to be thinking that 2023/24 even with a quad will see a SIGNIFICANT revenue drop due to anfield road end delays (4.5mil a game) and no CL. We should not really be worried about FFP after 2023/24 due to the other fine seasons round it but we need to be watching out for what there will be for a new manager to buy who they like. 5. world class players aging. Salah pace is gone. he's not slow but he's now what he was, and no where near it. He is getting matched by a lot of full backs now. VVD is back to a good level but he is aging too. those two being replaced is a huge ask but the rest of the squad is good around them to absorb it.
Thats utterly irrelevant for now. First that might be his way to suit the players he has. Second we have massive flexibility in the players we have already. Third Klopp was a 4231 type before arriving at anfield as he had players like lewandowski. Fourth the bundesliga is a different league with different football. Firth Alonso is a smart guy who knows the prem and knows his stuff generally. This is merely guys putting out stuff the masses want without any real intelligence in it. Whoever comes in inherits a squad with a lot of players who can play 3 and 4 positions and have a good work ethic. they will find a way. Tactics are tactics but work ethic and never giving up is the core for me. Get someone who will continue with players believing that if they keep going anyhting is possible and will continue to have self disciplined dedicated players. If the next man doesn't buy an anthony/balotelli type I'll be happy. As mad as nunez is he works and is dedicated, never gives up and is honest. IMO put the right players out there and tactics will take care of themselves (well not really but you know what i mean)
Agree and even besides that, the piece on Xabi that I listened to talked about how he, along with most modern teams, likes to rotate between 3 formations depending on the situation.
VVD's aging but it's not like he needs replacing this summer. Assuming Matip leaves, Konate (who looks like he'll be the new defensive leader), VVD, Gomez and Quansah is a decent set of centre-backs for a year or two yet. Finding a RF will be the more pressing need imo.
Its just a reality that Leverkusen, with absolutely no disrespect to them cannot afford the types of players an Alonso type manager might be handed so he needs to adapt accordingly. What you really need to look at is his general philosophy. they have some money but are shopping in a very different place to us so just cos they have frimpong and he can run like the blazes doesn't mean Alonso will walk into anfield is appointed and demand that. If we just listen directly to alonso his what he has said himself we learn more than any of these soundbite people Xabi Alonso on the managers he worked underneath: “The first lesson that I learned from them is that the players need to follow you, they need to believe in what they are doing, they need to know that they are improving with you coaching, with your help,” Alonso on style at Leverkusen “We want to play modern football. That means: intensity with and without the ball, being more active than passive and with a strong mentality. “The team has to know how we want to play. Dominant, intense, controlled, with a winning mentality and that should be from the first kick-off until the final whistle. I will try to give the players clear instructions and ideas.” I think that ticks a large amount of boxes that us fans want in players and approach.
I was reminded of a man i was talking to before Christmas. He had a liver transplant and made the comment it focuses your mind when you think you might only have 5 or 10 Christmases left. Most of us do not think like this IMO. Well here's a little one for you all to think on, just to cheer the mood We have at MOST 29 games (reach all cup finals) with Klopp. I think luv is right, make the most of them.
OK, deliberately sticking a hot poker up the forum's butthole here but what about Pep? He's not as good as Klopp (no one is) Klopp kept pace with him with lower budget and Pep has been on cheat mode with unlimited funding for the last, is it 6 years? But we've seen plenty of other managers with unlimited funding who couldn't keep up at the top. I actually do respect Pep as a top manager, just not as top as Klopp. He could be wanting to jump ship at City with them about to be relegated to the Icelandic 4th division.
unless the Arabs have bare-faced lied to Pep to the point that he wants to punish them, it will never happen lol
I think you've just about nailed that. As everyone knows i think the sun shines out of xabi alonso's arse as a player. Mascherano **** OFF! I think the guy knows what the club is about and there isn't a better "young candidate" out there.
One important advantage LFC have is a relatively young squad with a good crop of younger players to come through. Not like when Fergie left Utd with a team of pensioners.
The funny thing is, Klopp could've quite easily done something close to that last year if he wanted to, and left the new manager needing to start out with the complete midfield rebuild that we've done. Full credit to klopp for sorting that out before deciding to leave.
