yeah. especially if you are away team expecting a bent ref or var to suddenly pull you up on something. the first goal I thought they might claimma foul in the jump. every pen I was thinking they'd award it. but in fairness the lino got all the flags right imo and aside from some blindingly obvious stuff missed Hooper didn't absolutely screw us. 100% flowed better.
I've hated VAR since its inception, and VARless games only serve to reinforce my opinion. Yeah, there'll be mistakes made by officials on the pitch, but football is a fast, fluid game and all those interruptions ruin it for me.
I've always said if a manger is that aggrieved by a call they should have 1 review. use it and lose it if wrong. they should get a replay shown and the ref should be out of it. we have refs stood as 4th officials who can view an incident on the screen right there and make that one call. they have ruined goals and are so focused on politics they are making worse calls than left to their own devices. if a ref themselves wants to draw a box and look at a pen then work away bit having some **** in a box miles away and a ref pointing at his ear abdication responsibility is no use at all
You wouldn't be saying that if we got a goal ruled out for offside that was actually on side....oh... Or erm if a player got sent, but var showed it was innocuous.....oh.... Or erm if you wanted to make a cup of tea, but there's not enough breaks in the match for the kettle to boil! There found the best reason for var
My youngest was trying to say VAR is needed. My argument was quite simple and he had no answer. With no VAR the officials sometimes get it right and sometimes make a mistake. With VAR the officials sometimes get it right and sometimes make a mistake. It just takes them about 5 minutes to make the mistakes with VAR.
true as the vast majority come down to opinion and bluster. var is merely back up to bluster now. some method is still needed for the egregious error so reviews would see fair but strictly limited. if you look at our shout v odengaard the tapes released show that ref guessed. he shouted no his hand was on the floor when it was clearly nowhere near the ground. we all know he guessed and var backed him to the hilt.
Yeah so bin all the nonsense that stops the game and let the ref decide, sometimes you'll have to just accept they'll get it wrong.
yeah, the only argument is how honest they are about it. if that ref said I didn't see it or I thought his hand was on the floor then ok. but to hide the tapes then let them out after basically making it his hand moved away from the ball is just silly and creates all the chirn of what's a foul.
It always comes back around to the same thing - VAR is a good system, run by incompetent individuals. I'm in favour of it when it works well and not in favour when it doesn't.
Steve Nicol is talking crap then. Guys started every game and deserve it as well as playing and winning the cup final 2 years ago
I just don't like it at all. It takes all joy out of scoring a goal. We don't need all the stoppages.
I agree. At one point we were worried about a goal being offside but increasingly, a goal that is very clearly onside is being ruled out for something that happened in the build up. The one ruled out in Toulouse for a 'handball' by Macca about 7 touches previous to the goal, stands out. As frustrating as that is, I have to admit to having an equal measure of satisfaction when an opposition goal is ruled out, especially one that would be costly. If I had to vote on whether or not we kept VAR, though, I would vote no.
Tbh I'd still hate VAR if it got everything right, because it destroys the flow of the game - but as you say it destroys the flow of the game and still gets so much wrong. Every time we score now I can't get excited because I'm waiting for VAR to do a forensic investigation into the build-up to try and unearth some minor infraction. I've found myself hoping for its intervention every time we concede, and I really don't want to get into that mind-set.
