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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. QPRNUTS

    QPRNUTS Well-Known Member

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    Agree fully with the appeasement part.
    There would be no dancing around the ‘all out war’. A foreign army attacks Iran and the Middle East would ignite faster than you can imagine. It would lead to WW3 instantly IMO.

    those of us who are lucky enough to have been born in the west, have been brain washed throughout our lives by media, social media and even films etc to believe that western policy is right. The never ending fight for democracy and that anything else is simply wrong and must be rooted out. I’d ask everyone to reflect on American foreign policy since ww2. To say it has been disastrous is the understatement of all understatements. Actually take the time to stop and reflect on it. It props up its huge armament industry by selling weapons to literally everyone, causes havoc internationally with supporting proxies and has changed sides more times than the wind. It has literally foo*ed up dozens of counties. But the world never questions this. Why? Britain had become its puppet in all of this. Even the French now show more international savvy!!! NATO caused the war in Ukraine. Anyone who doesn’t know or understand this simply does not understand and can’t see what’s been happening on the international stage.
     
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  2. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    I agree with most of that and understand those points mate.
    However, not everything is always the fault of the West. It's too simplistic to blame the entire war in Ukraine on Nato.
    Iran, since 1979, has been a promoter of world wide terrorism and can't be allowed to just do as it pleases imo. They are now, through proxies, disrupting international shipping lanes, which is affecting our cost of living.
    Yes, we shouldn't interfere with other countries' domestic policy as far as possible and have done so far too often I agree, but sometimes, as history shows, there needs to be a line drawn.

    It's too easy to just always blame the West and the Yanks.
     
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    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    Iran doesn't have a nuclear bomb yet, Nuts, according to the international community. It has had to keep it uranium enrichment low.

    But give it a few years...
     
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    Presumably, if China starts a war to invade Taiwan, you'll blame the West for that too...
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    A foreign army attacked Iran and it didn't result in ww3
    Do you mean non Muslim country
    I don't think Saudi attacking Iran would lead to a global war
     
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  6. QPRNUTS

    QPRNUTS Well-Known Member

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    you’re presuming a lot there :)
     
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  7. QPRNUTS

    QPRNUTS Well-Known Member

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    Saudi would never attack Iran. And….who backs and supports Saudi’s military?
     
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    Was just pointing out that if a Muslim country attacked Iran it wouldn't start world war 3 like you stated
    Spouse it depends on what you mean as foreigners
    Just using the Saudis as an example
    Probably should have used Iraq
     
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    QPRNUTS Well-Known Member

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    Your point is 100%
    But you know what I mean :)
     
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    But what's the difference between the Ukraine and Taiwan situations? The pull of the EU to Ukraine? Is that why you blame the West for Ukraine and not Taiwan?
     
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    Goldie

    I’m freezing my nuts off here at a match and don’t have the time or interest in writing an essay. I’ll be over for a match soon and we’ll have a half dozen pints and solve all of the worlds issues in the C&S
     
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    Lords block the utterly pointless and expensive Rwanda bill. Bloody woke lefties etc.
     
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    Traitors! It's the will of the people! Get Rwanda Done!
     
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    whats wrong with putting illegal immigrants on the first ferry back to france
     
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    Too cheap
     
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    Because they wouldn't be let in Kiwi.

    They would be stopped at the point of entry
     
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    France could just ferry them back. Wasn’t the owner of P&O a Tory donor? Vaguely remember some scandal or other amongst the others. A neverending ferry journey.
     
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