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Winter transfer window

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by mick65, Nov 7, 2023.

  1. Comfy

    Comfy Well-Known Member

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    With alese, seelt, triantis we wouldn’t be leaving ourselves short. Hume can cover alese at left back and pembele could come in on the right. We aren’t gonna find out if any of the young lads can cut it if we don’t give them the chance
     
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  2. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    I know Langstaffs dad, hes from Stockton on tees where i live and often turns up to watch Stockton town play.

    For sentimental reasons id like him to sign, but in reality its hardly a signing of ambition is it.
     
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  3. Dorset

    Dorset Well-Known Member

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    Nads mentioned this guy a few days back. Could be a good signing
     
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  4. Pure River Slut

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    I agree. The only reason at some points is we need height. 09 has bad games but rarely.
     
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  5. The Norton Cat

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    6 generally. Even though it's more traditional in this country for 5 and 6 to be the centre backs.
    Using '10' for a central attacking midfielder is an Italian/Spanish/Latin American thing.
     
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  6. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    I agree with this. Or 3 centre backs in a 3 4 3 but we’d need a lwb for that and as you say it would miss Pritch playing where he does best.
     
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  7. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    That’s where it gets messy cos a 4 was a cdm when I was a kid.
     
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  8. The Norton Cat

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    Exactly. I think its because we've borrowed foreign terminology and in some places they traditionally numbered their back four 2, 3, 4, 5 from left to right (or right to left maybe). Obviously we do 3, 5, 6, 2 because it's adapted from the 235/WM
     
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  9. OLAITAN

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    Slow day for transfer news then.
     
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  10. The Norton Cat

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    I'm sure Dickie Ord used to wear number 8 though. Or have I imagined that?
     
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  11. Scout73

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    No6
     
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  12. Scout73

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    Not convinced this lad will be of Championship standard, watched him a few times and not sure his all round game is good enough for the championship
     
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  13. Vincemac

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    There having a laugh
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

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    I expect it would be hoped that Roberts, Clarke, Pritchard, etc, would provide enough service ...

    ... I'm sure they'd welcome Hemir/Mayenda on loan as px.

    That would benefit us as they'd have the chance to gain experience and come back better players.
     
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  15. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    Is Langstaff better than those 2 though? He’s been playing in the lower leagues for a team that have been favourites for the title 3 years running and create any amounts of chances for him
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I've no idea but he does have confidence, 'experience' and speaks English <laugh>
     
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  17. Nordic

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    I always thought it was, but not always the flat 442 shape

    —1—
    2-4-5-3
    7-6-8-11
    -9-10-
     
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    And then alexander arnold goes and wears number 66!

    The idea of using numbers to articulate positions was fine up until we introduced squad numbers. Now it is a bit of a nonsense to be honest. Even back in the old world you had Bryan Robson wearing 7. Mind you I dont recall calling him an 8, but he was the very epitome of a box to box midfielder.
     
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  19. The Norton Cat

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    I believe it started with the Victorian 235 formation being

    1
    2 3
    4 5 6
    7 8 9 10 11
    Which is was the most common formation when shirt numbers were introduced (or rather that was the way that all teams were drawn on published team sheets when shirt numbers were introduced)
    This became in Herbert Chapman's WM
    1
    2 5 3
    4 6
    8 10
    7 9 11

    Which is why some times refer to centre backs as Centre Halfs because the traditional central half back was dropped back between the two full backs.

    And then it became
    1
    2 5 6 3
    7 4 8 11
    9 10
    In the 442. Another half back was dropped back between the full backs and that was the 6.

    Edit: bloody numbers haven't come out they way I typed them but you get the idea.
     
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  20. TeamOfTalents

    TeamOfTalents Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad someone asked about the numbers, I was thinking about the terminology today

    1 - Easy...keeper
    2 - LB
    3 - RB
    4 - CD
    5 - CD
    6 - CDM
    7 - ?
    8 - box to box midfielder
    9 - out and out striker
    10 - player behind striker
    11 - winger

    That about right?
     
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