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Winter transfer window

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by mick65, Nov 7, 2023.

  1. TopCat.

    TopCat. Well-Known Member

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    Been mulling over this all weekend. I have 17 days worth of patience with this model. If we start February without an experienced CDM (not Evans) and/or without an experienced striker then I think I'm done.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

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    Cheers mate but I keep seeing the same thing repeated again and again by various posters.

    It's called 'flexibility' or investment but, imo, the reality would be KLD pumping in money.

    Fulham lost about £1m a week to go up, QPR lost half that to end up plummeting towards L1.

    I've accepted sustainability, a squad learning on the job and a different way to progress ...

    ... lets face it our 'progress' has been limited in the past.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

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    I think you're not, especially if we trounce Hull on Friday <laugh>
     
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  4. Sour Patch

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    Norwich are not in FFP trouble and Sargent is a seriously valuable asset to them. They have no reason to make a loss on him.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

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    It was in the public domain for years tbh.
     
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  6. TopCat.

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    Done with supporting the model.....is what I should have said. Not done with SAFC. Now I read that back I see where I should have been clearer
     
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  7. Pure River Slut

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    I don’t know this, I guess I have a bit of it so maybe it’s just me, but I think some are scared if we don’t get up we lose our stars. Inevitably we will lose some anyway like it’s just a different level up.
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

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    It's amazing just how, despite the amount I've drunk, pedantic I can be <laugh>
     
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  9. Pure River Slut

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    Yeah I like him
     
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  10. TopCat.

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    Like peas in a pod mate. I am the ultimate pedant. My wife loves me for it.


    Or despite it. I forget
     
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  11. Sour Patch

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    For me I don't particularly care about the experience part but leaving this window without a specialist defensive midfielder and specialist striker would be criminal and detrimental to all the work that has been done before. Some round pegs for round holes.
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

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    I'd love us to sign both of those players but I'm struggling to think who it would be.

    Foreign is out because they often take too long to settle.

    Championship could only be from those not in play-off contention so not many of those.

    PL can only be loans or a punt on someone who's failed.

    Lower league is a minefield and not guaranteed to be better than what we already have.

    I'd like us to put Rusyn or Mayenda in for every game and move Hume or Seelt into the DM role.

    I really believe we have a good team there and better than the likes of Hull, etc ...

    ... the players need to step up, they're just a little off the pace imo.
     
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    Agree to a point but when we sign 18yo Eduardo Prost from Auxerre B and ask him to make his professional debut screening the back 4 away to Middlesbrough then I might lose my ****
     
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  14. Sour Patch

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    :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl: This club tests patience like no other
     
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    :emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm Almost googled him
     
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  16. LD19SAFC

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    Scary how accurate you could be here <laugh>
     
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  17. WorkyTicketFTM

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    He’s been in charge 3 years now he bought us in the December of 2021 iirc. We lost to Lincoln in play offs his first season
     
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    Do you think we need significant investment or are you happy to keep signing cheap promising youngsters? We all want the best for our club but it’s obvious we lack quality and we can’t afford another window of signing potential.
    We need players to come in and make an impact now.
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    That's quite a tricky set of questions tbh.

    'Do you think we need significant investment' ... I'm not sure what we've already spent and don't know how you'd define 'significant'.

    'Are you happy to keep signing cheap promising youngsters?' ... absolutely providing we're also prepared to look at anyone who can improve us.

    'It’s obvious we lack quality' .. we have loads of quality, hence the interest from PL clubs.

    'We need players to come in and make an impact now.' ... I'd agree but we also need our current players to step up.

    What I wouldn't want is panic, as we had signing the likes of Grigg, and still failing to go up.

    I'd rather do our best, with the squad we have, and buy in the summer then have a real go next season.

    I'm not far off 70 mate, so want success now, but I don't want to repeat the same old mistakes we've made so often before.
     
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  20. LD19SAFC

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    The Grigg signing actually made sense at the time, he’d scored goals everywhere he had been. The problem was we massively overpaid and he didn’t wanna be here.
     
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