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Match Day Thread Ipswich Town FC v Sunderland AFC – Saturday 13th January 2024 - KO 17:30

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Jan 10, 2024.

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Your Prediction:

Poll closed Jan 13, 2024.
  1. Home win

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  2. Away win

    49.3%
  3. Draw

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  1. TopCat.

    TopCat. Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Ba was injured maybe he was knackered.
     
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  2. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    I agree about the substitution it’s not what I would have done but Ba had got a daft yellow for one, maybe that was in thinking, and I think it also reflects on our squad and our lack of confidence in some of the attacking players.
     
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  3. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    Woah I haven’t looked at this thread since the match ended. 542 posts since it finished :eek:
     
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  4. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    so you are saying they will stay if we get relegated?
     
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  5. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    I’m saying our team isn’t good enough to survive in the PL as it is but the longer we stay in the championship the more of our best players we lose season by season. If we sell for arguments sake Clarke, Ballard and Hume then spend £5m on replacements who turn out to be duds were further away than we were before. If Ipswich went up now they’d get tanked every week unless they spend big.

    You have to pump money in when you go up just because you spend 10 years in the championship that doesn’t mean you’re stronger than a club who’s spent 2 years in it and guaranteed to survive.
     
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  6. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    That’s the reason I want to stay in the Championship, I like it there, you don’t, doesn’t mean you are right.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

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    I'm not just referring to the last three and tbf Mowbray received similar opposition when he was appointed.
    His reception was only tempered because he sounds like us tbh.

    Johnson was hounded out as another example, we were second at the time. I could go back through others but won't. I will say I remember clearly Jeff Stelling saying, 'Sunderland fans, take care what you wish for, you might regret it'. Can't remember the manager, I could search for it but me dinna's just arrived <laugh>
     
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  8. The Norton Cat

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    But if we sell, for arguments sake, Clarke, Ballard, and Hume and then spend £5m on players who are better, we'll be closer than we are.

    Received wisdom is, you have to pump money in when you go up. What if we're trying to find a better way of doing it where you don't have to do that and don't put the club at financial risk?
     
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  9. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Correct mate but selling a player for £20m and finding someone better for £5m isn’t easy. Nothing is to say that we can’t do it but generally better players cost more money. People will rightly point to Brighton but their scouting set up and budget is significantly larger than ours they pumped hundreds of millions into infrastructure hence all of the South Americans and they’re pretty much a one off.

    I just hope when we do sell they reinvest properly.
     
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  10. Downeys Loup

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    Damn, no midweek fixture. At this rate I reckon the thread will break 100 pages before Friday’s game against Hull.
     
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  11. RTB

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    Official Highlights

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    Full 90:


    Post match analysis:
     
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  12. Pure River Slut

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    I think the key is finding the player on the way up. Spending when they’re one million, pre them being worth 5 million and keep them until they’re worth twenty. Were some way to doing that now but people lose their arse when we concede a goal (me included at times btw)
     
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  13. The Norton Cat

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    Of course it's not easy, that's why everyone wants to find that magic formula. But what's the point of assuming it's not going to happen? The way I see it, the club is still a work in progress. KLD has only been here 5 minutes. We have to give him time. We're already light years ahead of where we were.
    Someone was claiming on the other thread that KLD wouldn't spend his own money on the club like it was a bad thing. Of course he shouldn't. The club should be self funded because that way we're not beholden to an oil rich state or a billionaire. But it's obvious that it will take time to get there, yet people are unhappy with him already.
     
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  14. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Full 90 video, 58 minutes in. Defo didn’t bring his elbow up mind can’t believe Jackson has crouched down to initiate contact :emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  15. WorkyTicketFTM

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    But how do you compete with clubs even like Hull or Ipswich whose owners are dipping into their pockets. I agree he shouldn’t spend **** loads but you can’t expect to be a PL club without spending surely? You should be spending what you can as a football club and if we’re hugely under our FFP cap that’s a problem imo.
     
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  16. The Norton Cat

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    You do have to spend but the club should generate the money. That means he has an awful lot of work to do on the commercial side and player recruitment and sales have to be top notch. That's how you compete with clubs whose owners fritter away their own money. It seems that KLD possibly wants to do things without throwing his or his family's money around and I think he's right. I'd rather wait and see how that pans out. It could be great, it could end up with us stuck in the Championship. One thing is for certain though, it won't end the same way the Short era did.
     
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  17. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Had we won, we’d be lucky to be at 150! Always busier after a defeat for some reason
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

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    Just seen the ref book Diego Carlos, in the Everton - Villa game, for picking the ball up after a free kick was given to Villa.

    It should be automatic!

    Every team does it to us, Ipswich did yesterday ...

    ... it's cheating ffs.
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    Over 300 saying they want Beale out ...

    ... along with Speakman, KLD and half the players.

    The jury is out on Doris, the tea lady, but her chocolate éclairs have come in for quite some criticism <laugh>
     
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  20. The Norton Cat

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    They're appalling. Too much cream, not enough chocolate. She's taking the piss. And she doesn't use Yorkshire Tea, she's clearly not one of us. Makes me feel disconnected.
     
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