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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Jan 12, 2024.

  1. OldNewtown

    OldNewtown Well-Known Member

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    The last one always gets me. If you were that pissed off you'd just stop going.
    It's a mute point anyway as they probably don't have a season ticket, well at the SoL.
     
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  2. Monkey69

    Monkey69 Well-Known Member

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    If I am honest it is hard to remember a time I have been more behind the people running the club as we now can see the road forward and can see the plan in place, they have done the root and branch clear out that most supporters asked for and have turned the ship around.
    Sure mistakes will be made but we look to have a leadership who are working hard to enable us as a club to improve and the absolute bell ends who can not see that really annoy me. I may not agree with everything but know that these people are doing there best for the team and club.
    Even when I was at work after the Derby defeat and the mags there came over to talk about the game there was little gloating from them and honestly I did not suffer as much ****e as I expected. Funnily enough that cringeworthy photo was more inappropriately gloating than their own fans.
    I am prod of my club and told them so as we are a young team trying to build in the right way to achieve long term success,it takes time and the journey may be a little frustrating at times but I am excited for the future and what we may be able to achieve.

    Rant Owa
     
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  3. Bob the Mackem

    Bob the Mackem Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking about OTR and those jumping on board
     
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  4. TonyG

    TonyG Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly my worry. They are constantly winding each other up into righteousness indignation
     
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  5. OldNewtown

    OldNewtown Well-Known Member

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    Exactly each trying to outdo the other in righteous indignation
    Or f#ckwittery depending on your point of view.
    It's all about attention and likes
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It seems there's a feeling that RAWA will be fobbed off by KLD claiming the allocation of 6000 was due to FA regulations ...

    ... which basically means some people don't want an explanation, just to be perpetually outraged 'for the next 50 to 60 years.
     
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  7. OldNewtown

    OldNewtown Well-Known Member

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    Well, I mean, what did the Romans ever do for us
     
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  8. Young Ted

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    I spent last night in 2 hr debate with a m8 who’s gone for over 50 years who thinks exactly like those over there,he dosent like the coach but can’t offer up an alternative he dosent see why we won’t spend 10s of millions on players actually thinks the chances did a better job,thinks the club aren’t ambitious and just want to hang about the championship for ever really don’t get where these folk are coming from
     
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  9. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    I’ve only looked at RTG once.

    Lasted less than 5 minutes - <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>

    Never been back!!

    Bart
     
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  10. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    I don’t have an account but I occasionally have a browse during transfer windows to see if there’s anything on there. It doesn’t take long before I’m cringing. I’m sure most of them are mags there’s just no way normal fans write half of the ****e they do.
     
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  11. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    I’d rather stick pins in my eyes - life’s too short mate!!

    Bart
     
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  12. Iain

    Iain Well-Known Member

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    I just think it was because we got a billionaire owner and they expected him to spend millions on player recruitment.
    I've said it many times now, we had that and ended up in league one, Ipswich threw everything at getting promoted this season but are starting to waver, if they don't go up they could end up in serious trouble.
    If you aren't state owned you haven't got an open cheque book.
    The owners aim is to go up, if we don't we will still be in a strong position next season with the ground work already starting to take shape.
    It will take another 4-5 years for all the cogs to be put in place, some people don't want to wait and enjoy the ride on the way.
    They want us to go spend and go all out for promotion, if you do that and fail you can end up back in league one before you know it
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    We've brought in players like Clarke, Hume, Ballard, Jobe, etc, and transformed them. What some worry about is losing them which 'will seriously weaken us' in their opinion.

    That's only true if the recruitment stops or fails but there's no reason to think it will. The players we've brought in weren't the last hidden gems and I'm sure we're striving to keep things moving.

    It's all about trusting the club ...

    ... which is impossible for some.
     
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  14. Iain

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    I got a feeling we signed the next bunch during the summer, it's just about developing them properly, I would have preferred to have seen some of them get more opportunities. However whichever coach is in charge has to get the balance right of developing the players but also trying to field your strongest team on a Saturday.
    I've said for a while Adil should be getting a lot more game time, but as a coach that we mean leaving, Jobe, Roberts or even Pritchard out. If Adil scores the winner the coach is a hero , if he doesn't perform his decision would be questioned as to why he left experienced players out.
    It will take time but these foundations are going to built for a much better club
     
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  15. Daz

    Daz Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly why the club will not be steered by the fans. We know there are issues, certainly off the field, but I'm sure the hierarchy are aware and will address them given time. The derby shambles will no doubt have prioritised some issues ahead of others.

    No owner in their right mind would use RTG to get a sensible idea of how the fans feel. If they really wanted to get opinions they would send an email questionnaire to club members.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I may be naïve but I expect the club to know as much as the supporters.

    I'd guess they're aware of problems with away fans, tickets, merchandising, catering and the bird poo on some of the girders. I'd also guess they're looking for the most effective and cost effective solutions.

    I'd imagine if the owner spent money on all of these issues now there'd be complaints that we should be spending money on the team 'not fancy bloody murals and better hand driers'.
     
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  17. Robertson

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    It is weird how some fans can’t see how well we are being run, overall. I suppose people have to actively look properly rather than focusing on just certain aspects (lack of big money signings, striker issues, etc). Not that views on those things aren’t valid opinions / observations.

    If KLD, Speakman and Beale continue to steadily improve on the work so far then I think more and more of the doubters / naysayers will understand the exciting journey we are on. To the ones who will refuse to reconsider negative opinions as the journey progresses, I think it will show some of them up for sticking stubbornly to beliefs as if it’s a badge of honour rather than a sign of rigid ignorance and refusal to look at the changing reality with fresh eyes.
     
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  18. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    Don’t worry you get told all about it on here :emoticon-0114-dull:
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It's been a while since it was mentioned but, my fault, it's gone crazy over there and RAWA, WMS, RR, etc all seem to be whipping things up.

    Anyway, you're right ... it's match day, Ha'way the Lads!!!
     
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  20. TeamOfTalents

    TeamOfTalents Well-Known Member

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    If the club really wanted a true representation of fans opinion let us login to the website with our customer numbers and answer questions on there. It's not rocket science.
     
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