As I said before, we have many talented players, Rosey has swallowed the Man City coaching manual, but is blind to the fact we’re ****ing useless at it, the problem with appointing ex defenders as managers, their first thought is, do not concede, Bruce was the same, that’s why we **** about at the back with hundreds of passes going no where. When we decide to get going we look good, but it only happens when we go behind, we’re never on the front front from the kick off, I knew, you knew, Sunderland were going to beat us, Blackburn should have beat us. We should be many more points better off than we are, Rosenior is to blame, he promised us exciting football, is it really?
Yes but VAR only seems to look at stopping a goal, finding a foul or an offside, off course with 20 cameras at a game you can do that, let the ref be the sole decider on decisions, if we suffer so be it.
But it’s a squad he built, so saying “we should be better off” is just giving him more credit, because a different manager would have signed different players and we wouldn’t necessarily be here. Shota, for example. The style of play we have is high risk, high reward. It’s not for everybody, but overall I’d say it’s been effective and it’s got us to where we are now. The squad is clearly fatigued and I’d gladly chuck the cup to improve league performances. The biggest mistake Rosie made this season was saying he wanted a small squad. That only works if you keep everyone fit and history tells us we aren’t good at it. We need at least four quality players this month to add to the squad.
But Rosey is only a coach, managers pick the players they want, coaches do not, Tan identifies the players for the club, that why we’ve had so many crap Turks, cos of input from Acun. Be interesting to see who we get though.
Don’t go to away matches very often and based on today that’s not going to change. **** ground that doesn’t appear to have changed that much since 1989, **** fans, **** club, **** weather, **** SYP (wtf was the policing in Leppings lane after the match about?!). No parking for away buses. Even the music was **** - there’s loads of great bands from Sheffield and they come out to Hi Ho ****ing silver lining? As for City, well bad day at the office, the red card did change things because although Wednesday were holding their own at that point, we have had matches where we’ve started slow and pulled ourselves up. We could have done that tonight. and it’s back to work tomorrow, whoopie ****ing do.
No, because this sort of decision happens just as much with VAR as without it. We've seen it loads in the PL this season. The problem is the rules are very subjective and so you'll always get reds that look very harsh and players getting away with other challenges which look worse to some people.
He was complaining when we climbed to fifth. The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
With this post I think we've had the full range of levels of involvement that Rosenior has in transfers now. If you think Rosenior has zero involvement in transfers then I have some seaside properties in derby to sell to to you
That's why I clarified that VAR is good, it's application in the PL is not. It should be used for the very clear errors which seems the sticking point of what is 'clear'.
Well that makes it worse then, would you have signed, and I’ve looked it up, Lokilo, Furlong, Aydinlik, (who) Vinagre, Allsop, Ebiowei, Rosenior for all his faults might have sanctioned Allsop but the others, no ****ing chance on Earth
I think it is somewhat insightful to raise that when so many people are missing or ignoring it. People always rush to blame this or that, but give little discussion to the actual events that decided the game. Today we lost by three goals to one, not because they had chance after chance and Ingram was bombarded, but because they beat him emphatically from distance twice, and from a very acute angle once. None of those can primarily be blamed on substitutions or selection decisions or Ingram or whoever; they were unusually good shots from unlikely scoring positions. And that's what won them the game ultimately.
I’d say don’t judge it on one game. Rosenior has a year on him where he’s taken a relegation threatened club up to the play off places. Wednesdays manager is clearly doing a good job, but if they lose momentum, what happens then?
I've never really understood that argument. I can't think of an application of it which could really make it work. Being used less would be good, but then it probably wouldn't overturn today's red on that basis (and rightly so).
I like many have no idea on the specifics. I do know he will have asked for some players and probably been granted a few. He may have also missed out on some that we dont know about. Think highlighting bad transfers (of which there will always be some) and saying "well they were **** so Rosenior's judgement is **** too" when in reality the transfer process is probably done via committee now is just naïve. That was more my point
Determining clear offsides that are given incorrectly, dives awarded as pens, red cards that shouldn't be given are the straight forward applications to me. I think offside should be semi-automated though. On today's red, as Rico suggested, I think the ref should be encouraged to watch a replay, if he sticks with his call so be it but at least he has a chance to review other angles that show it wasn't as extreme as his view suggested. Happy to limit them to two clear replays from each angle at real speed and if that doesn't change his mind then move on.
We had one shot on target. They had 6. So the odds are they would score more. What were the xGs? Home63% Away37% Shots Home23 Away5 Shots on Target Home6 Away1 Corners Home10 Away4 Fouls Home13 Away13
It's fair to say we didn't start well, they were better than expected but didn't really create much even though they were on top. However, I did feel as the first half wore on we were starting to get a foothold in the game, until the red card. IMO it was not a red, and even debatable whether a yellow, if you watch it back Tyler foot never came into contact with their player's foot, it was Tyler pushing the ball through with the tackle which upended their player, and boy did he make the most of it. I believe initially the ref was going to give a yellow, but bottled it under crowd and player pressure to give the red. Once that happen then it spoilt the game from our perspective, as I do feel as the game wore on we may well have grown into the game. As Liam said after the game, to play 65 minutes with 10 men after a gruelling 4 game in 10 days was a big ask. Not many positives to come out of the game, Allahyar was lively, Matty Jacob's did well, Greaves really tried hard to wrestle something back out of the game, and Twine's penalty was well taken, but other than that not much else. Seri clearly going to be a big miss, he dictated how we play, so it will be interesting to see how we cope without him. Clearly one of those night where thing just seem to go against you, so we just have to put it behind us and not get too down and regroup.
Only possible issue he might have with getting it overturned is his front foot coming down on top of the ball which could be perceived as 'high and reckless' - I don't think it is, but it's the only avenue I could see them taking to maintain the ban.
You’re right, as annoying as it is though that one game won’t get us relegated or promoted, however it also doesn’t help us to bring in the players that we need, and the players that we bring in will be pivotal. In the end though it was a learning experience, we all need them, and I’m pretty certain that Rosie has learnt from last night.
