We will get no-one. Short isn't interested since England didn't win the world cup and he can't bring his big american buddies here. Quinn is over in Asia looking for a new buyer. Short wants out.
To be fair and in no way wummy.. I reckon that the area just isnt fashionable, its as simple as that. Just look at how that bellend Crapello ducks out of visiting the North East at every opportunty.
I dare say we could attract top coaches/managers, but, Ellis is going to have to give garauntees about how much support & money will be available to attract the players he wants, on a consistant basis.
I agree, but if we would be willing to pay stupid amounts to get them here then they would come, unfortunately would it be right to pay that sort of wage to a player & give in to his demands
It's all pretty simple to be honest. The big clubs attract the big managers. We are a small club but have been left with the biggest manager in the league, unfortunately we went for size over reputation though. If someone from outside the area thinks of Sunderland they'll think of a team who over the last 20-30 years have had two good seasons, all the rest has either been spent in the lower leagues or struggling in the Premier League, hardly the success that's going to attract Mourinho or Guardiola is it?
I still think that a supposedly top coach worth his salt would take a challenge like our club and say 'if I turn this club from sleeping giant to consistent challengers for trophies/titles that proves I am one of the best'. Surely it's not all about having an unlimited amount of money to spend. Don't forget the new fair play rules that are due to be introduced regarding spending in relation to turnover. I still don't understand what stops us from approaching a top coach and appointing them.
Sorry to disapoint anyone, but it's purely financial.. Location...nah...just have a look at recent history and who "them" have had as boss.. Some half decent manager with decent reputations..(ok it may have not worked out for them, but that's a different story)
What you seem to be missing though is that the managers have no links to our club so what would attract them here? Hardly the fact that we are challenging for honours. Big name managers don't go to teams battling relegation pretty much every year in the same way Messi won't turn up at the SOL on Saturday. They are too big and more often than not too good to drop down from challenging for the title or CL places.
Money, and promise of funds... I used "them" as an example, and now your on about links? What "links" did Guillit or Dagliesh have to them? It's all about the money....
Kenny went in 97, Newcastle finished 2nd in 96/97 so Champions League Football. then they finished 13th on 44 points Gullit was the season after that, finished 13th with 46 points. (but then Gullit wasnt really a big name in managerial circles, only had the Chelsea Job before that, great player, just not a very good manager.) Sometimes big names just dont work very well, others they do but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
I don't think you need to consider location when talking about managers, players maybe, but not managers. There's going to be a few factors: 1. The salaries expected by the 'top managers'. Without guarantees, this is a big risk for any football club to take on. Look how much Roman paid to get AVB from Porto - do you think if the guy cost peanuts to employ he'd still be in the hotseat? No chance. 2. Transfer budgets - not many managers achieve success nowadays without a big budget. Even old Pulis is starting to break the bank with Stoke. 3. Better offers - any manager worth his salt will be given employment opportunities, and in a lot of cases their ego may think your club is beneath them. 4. Niall Quinn. This point has been somewhat rectified by your intelligent owner, but I guarantee you no top manager worth his salt wants to hear the visions of a drunken irishman who is 10 years his junior.
I doubt that your analysis holds any merit ....yes mon has done his time at clubs with little financial clout.....but in most careers you have to pay your dues doing this type of grunge work..but as you get older and more experienced and especially if he is as good as you say he is he will be looking for a premium job...and im afraid safc at present is not that job....he simply will have better options.....I also do not agrree with your faith in his ability and i know this will make you drop your pink gin... but i think that there is not much seperating mon and bruce with regard to managemental ability....Champions league is where the money is so if your not planning for that then it makes little sense spending loads for 5th place as the financial rewards are not there...short will be happy with mid table mediocrity ..growing the buisiness slowly.... look at the music shows planned for sol......In a way the only way to to remove MON from the pedistal that you have put him on is for him to get the safc job and see how he does....i think then you will realise how difficult it is to manage a prem club and sucess sometimes comes down to luck rather than ability.....It saddens me when managers at one point are the best thing since sliced bread(Peter Taylor, Brown.Hull Keegan,and many others)then all of a sudden become hopeless..how does that happen? do the Bogarts come in the night and remove all there abilities for a laugh....of course they dont....Bruce and mon are both well respected in the game by their peers so please watch this space.......see who will be proven right.....but i fear it will be a case of pedistal requiring new occupant.....
