to continue the deabte form yestderays match review i have dug into the LFC website and can offer the following stas for a continued deabte on Adam. I felt his midfield partner was a reasonable comparison point given their stats are right there for us to look at and we are playing 4-4-2 a lot 1. General Pl mins st SO Soff DW ADW I Lucas Leiva 11 955 11 - 2 61.4% 47.2% 27 Charlie Adam 12 995 12 - 1 55.6% 73.9% 19 pl = played mins = mins played St = starts SO = sub on SOff = subbed off DW = duels won ADW = aerial duels won I = interceptions 2. Defense Tk TKwon Cl B Lucas Leiva 61 73.8% 12 4 Charlie Adam 27 77.8% 15 5 Tk=tackles made Tkwon = takles won CL = clearances B = blocks 3. distribution P LP PA PPG TC SC SA Lucas Leiva 612 8.3% 84.8% 55.6 1 - 10 Charlie Adam 574 12.7% 77% 47.8 26 19.2% 25 P= total passes LP = long pass PA = passing accuracy PPG = passes per game TC= total crosses SC = successful crosses SA = shot assists 4. Attack G MPG s soT GIB GOB CR Lucas Leiva - 0 4 - - - 0% Charlie Adam 2 497.5 14 5 1 1 14.3% g=goals mpg =mins per goal S = shots SOt is shots on target GIB = goals in box GOB = goals outside box CR = conversion rate 5. discipline FW FC Y R Lucas Leiva 8 18 5 - Charlie Adam 18 25 2 1 Fw = fouls won FC= fouls conceeded Y = yellow R = red ................................................................. So what does all of this mean? My view Before I start I'll say again I've an absolute right to state an opinion especially if i'm the one bothering to try to make the debate, come on giving abuse and you WILL get it back in spades. come on debating and you'll get an open conversation. So. I think the stats are interesting from a couple of points of view. First Lucas is clearly making more passes and mostly short passes by linking the play between defense and midfield. Lucas seems to be making the majority of tackles as well and combining that with his fouls conceeded being less that adam's ther eis something i nthere that suggests lucas is quite busy defensively, which makes sense of course. Its also interesting to see Lucas with less fouls has 5 yellows. That may suggest he's ending up making worse fouls covering others positions by stretching to get there but also he may just be i nthe ref's ear too much as well. Adam on the other hand seems to be getting quite a few corsses in, free kick taking duties? Adam is also more fouled and commits more fouls so one part of that suggests he's on the ball more while lucas is moving the ball faster and shorter. Adam seems to be the one going for the aerial battle in midfield also. So over all the stats marry to the view that lucas is the defensive main stay and adam is playing a more attacking role and getting on the ball more. If we combine two stas on Adam, number of tackles made v no of fouls committed I think we get to a point where we see why he is critised. so far the point levelled at him is work rate and seeing he's not getting those tackles in successfully or should i say making that many at all you i think can see why he is critised. It is interesting to note he is there making the same blocks and clearances as lucas On the counter point he is making an attacking contribution and inevitably his lower pass success rate comes from that, through balls, longer passes etc. Do mistakes count that much? Is adam being singled out for the spurs game and perhaps not having the impact form set pieces expected? Or is there an element of the judgment being made before he was signed? My own view is that we had better players like meireles and those who've gone before and Adam has to be counted as a useful squad addition but not the guy who'll hold the position if we are to progress further (europe, tophies etc) I think we'll buy again in midfield. why? becasue the stats do show that his game needs a lot of work from a positional point of view, not to ruin the edge of his attakcing game but to resolve the defensive issues.
I think Adam is doing what we expected which is to provide a little more composure in the midfield and for his passing range. Whilst I accept he's not Alonso, we did decent business for £8m considering we don't have Champions League football to lure better players. I was expecting Lucas to make more tackles without a doubt however I was expecting Adam to have more of the ball and make more passes. I will blame that due to learning a newe system, working with new players however I do see him growing more. On the other hand, it shows us how lucky we are that we have a DM in Lucas who has the ability to win the ball and can pass accurately. Whilst the partnership is nowhere near as good Alonso and Mascherano, it is starting to develop and becoming more effective. It's no coincidence that we are dominating games and creating more chances this season.
Not heard anything about Gerrard for some time. He keeps getting these infections. It seems as though something's wrong with his immune system
Duels won? I like the idea of stats for duelling....I challenge you to a duel Think you'd be in trouble if a stat like that ever dropped below 100% though eh. Seriously though I never ever judge a player on Opta stats alone (or any other tbh) I prefer to judge them with my eyes. Simply put Adam has done ok so far, his mobility and positional sense need work but his distribution and ball carrying are excellent at times. Sunday aside his set pieces are good as well and he's certainly not afraid to have a pop at goal. As with any player it's impossible to say what's around the corner but all in all a good start to his career at Anfield.
"My view Before I start I'll say again I've an absolute right to state an opinion especially if i'm the one bothering to try to make the debate, come on giving abuse and you WILL get it back in spades. come on debating and you'll get an open conversation." As I will assume that this comment is directly pointed at me I will respond appropriately. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? You are not the arbiter of what is and is not abusive and I will neither be censored or threatened by your your opinion. The staistics that you present are both simplistic and misleading. Lucas and Adam are playing as a midfield pair. Whilst their roles are to a degree complimentary they are also different. Perhaps the only time that such a direct comparison could truly be useful is when you have 2 players erforming the same role independantly eg Quarterbacks playing with the same squad. The Universe used to create the percentages given is so small that the voloitility within the data is far too high to statisically have any true confidence. Therefore to base your analysis purely on this data means that your analyisis has to be lacking. Now you can take that as abuse if you so wish. I state again, I really don't care.
