1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Style of play/injury crisis

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Toonitus, Nov 30, 2023.

?

Will how change Newcastle's style of play

  1. Yes

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  2. No

    7 vote(s)
    77.8%
  1. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    40,557
    Likes Received:
    27,077
    The case.

    THE case!

    ANY FOOKIN CASE!

    JUST PRESENT A FOOKIN CASE, SO WE CAN ALL GO TO BED.

    Here, I'll help. Take your pick...

    images.jpeg-114.jpg images.jpeg-115.jpg download.jpeg-94.jpg
     
    #381
  2. Albert's Muffin Top

    Albert's Muffin Top Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2023
    Messages:
    210
    Likes Received:
    375
    The only cases I'm seeing here are nutcases and basketcases.
     
    #382
    Toonitus likes this.
  3. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
  4. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Messages:
    29,949
    Likes Received:
    25,264
    S
     
    #384
  5. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Messages:
    29,949
    Likes Received:
    25,264
    Anyone want to mention that how far into your business plan you are is an argument about nothing for so many reasons.
    Secondly, how big a Club is brings into consideration so many subjective issues that there is no agreed parameters and only those who agree will agree and those who don’t will have so many outs.
    That being said to try and argue Villa are a bigger Club than us really is laughable.
     
    #385
  6. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Messages:
    29,949
    Likes Received:
    25,264
    T
     
    #386

  7. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Point 1 I tend to agree we dont know enough information to claim a fact , but it's highly likely given the number of years involved that I'm right.

    Point 2 you're in denial mate and as previously advised only a Newcastle fan would even attempt to argue Newcastle are a bigger club.. Aston Villa are one of the most successful clubs in the country.
     
    #387
  8. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Messages:
    29,949
    Likes Received:
    25,264
    Point 1. It would be relevant if both Clubs had the same plan but they won't have. Business Plans are constantly updated and revised in any event so there is no one starting point. It also depends upon what aims are targeted in the Business Plan. If one Plan has the ultimate target of reaching the top half of the PL and the other Plan is to win the PL it really is irrelevant as to how far on in their respective Plan each Club is.
    Point 2. "One of the most successful Clubs in the country." Seriously, Frankie Boyle and Don Rickles have serious competition. <laugh> Just remind me, when was their last major trophy won?
    We aren't in the top section of "big clubs" but we're definitely in the same section as Villa.
     
    #388
  9. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    Point 1 the difference in the plans is irrelevant to how far into the plans they are.

    Point 2 1982 and that was added to an already far superior trophy haul than Newcastles.
     
    #389
  10. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Messages:
    29,949
    Likes Received:
    25,264
    So, as I said, it's an argument about nothing.
    So, "one of the most successful Clubs in this country" last won a trophy in 1982 more than 40 years ago. Well, somebody has been hogging the trophies. <laugh>
     
    #390
  11. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174

    I agree it is an argument about nothing, but I never started the argument I merely explained something and people wanted an argument about it.

    There's a huge difference in the levels of success Villa have had to Newcastle and you can add Everton to that also. I'm comfortable with it , but because Newcastle fans tend to be overly invested in the significance of their club they're unable to acknowledge it.
     
    #391
  12. Judge Death

    Judge Death Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2013
    Messages:
    6,213
    Likes Received:
    6,797
    PL seems a reasonable time period to review the two clubs
    Screenshot_20231222_220310_Chrome.jpg

    Newcastle - 5 fewer games but 26 more wins and 5 fewer losses.

    52 more points over that period ....
     
    #392
  13. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Messages:
    29,949
    Likes Received:
    25,264
    So does that make us "One of the most successful clubs in the country "?

    Asking for a friend.
     
    #393
    Obi Wan likes this.
  14. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    40,557
    Likes Received:
    27,077
    According to THE FANS, yes.
     
    #394
  15. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    why because you get to omit the parts of history that don't suit ? Like the colossal difference in domestic and European awards for example?
     
    #395
  16. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    No unfortunately it does not.

    giphy (15).gif
     
    #396
  17. Judge Death

    Judge Death Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2013
    Messages:
    6,213
    Likes Received:
    6,797
    Because in most instances you're discussing events that happened over a century ago. Even Hung can't remember that far back ....
     
    #397
    Obi Wan likes this.
  18. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    115,975
    Likes Received:
    60,174
    If you're comparing the clubs then looking at the full history of both clubs is necessary. Unfortunately cherry picking periods of time is essentially just a fiddle job.

    Are we saying Leicester are a bigger club than both? Not a chance by my rule.

    The reason people are omitting the full history is because the full story is a very different story...ie the true story.
     
    #398
  19. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    73,825
    Likes Received:
    39,881
    Hey Trev. Your tkme will be here soon. Given your username initials are DFS.

    can I get you ticket for half price now pls?
     
    #399
  20. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    40,557
    Likes Received:
    27,077
    No, but he can get you one of these instead...
    Screenshot_20231222_201724_Facebook.jpg
     
    #400

Share This Page