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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Doc, Dec 22, 2023.

  1. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    Steve Cooper
    So Steve Cooper who Phil Hay said someone at 49ers wanted instead of FARKE. Now sacked will probably walk into a job as soon as he wants one. Betting has him taking over from Woy at Palace, a much more stable job in the Prem. Good luck to him he deserves it.

    Galatasary
    Serious question: if Leeds do sign the Turk from Gala’ would you be upset because of the way Gala treated our fans and had no remorse for the murders of Kevin and Chris almost 24 years ago? Is it time to forget because many of our fans were too young to remember it and indeed may never have heard of it. Should we cut our nose off on principle if this player could be the difference in a promotion push. There’s no right and wrong answer here this is a personal thing.

    Hay Says We Need a 10
    We need a number 10, but if we bring someone in then that means we have a player we need to move on. At the moment we have Piroe as a 10 with Rutter at 9 but although Piroe has scored 8 goals he would be better as a 9 and Rutter at 10 for me. We have Gelhardt who could play 10, we have Summerville, Archie, Ampadu, Gyabi, Bate. Poveda. There’s also Aaronson if that loan fails. Wings we have Anthony, Poveda, Summerville, James, Gnonto so where would the Turk play unless at 10. My own view is we have plenty of players but FARKE doesn’t use them so let’s offload all the ones who will never get a game. Save the wages and make some transfer fees.

    • Billy Sharpe on his way to Hull City on loan from LA Galaxy where he has scored 6 goals in only 12 games, he also has 4 assists.
    • Donny Van De Beek will not be joining Leeds on loan as he is going to Eintracht Frankfurt.
    • Mason Greenwood is wanted by top clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona etc as they don’t listen to crap in the UK media and women’s footballers. Greenwood not even been in court, no case to answer and lost 2 years of football and his England career. Now flying at Getafe on loan because the scummers don’t have the bottle to play him even though the fans want him back. Discuss.
    • Max Wober is wanted after his loan ends with Borrusia MunchenGladbach however he seems to toying with the idea of returning to Leeds. In an interview yesterday he said he only left Leeds because the Austrian National boss rang him and told him he would not play for Austria unless he played in a top league. He said he understood fans disappointment but he was left with no option, and he was really please Leeds are playing good football again.

    European Superleague?
    European Court of Justice today confirmed that “neither UEFA nor FIFA can impose sanctions on clubs that participate in alternative competitions.

    • Why are there so many US owned clubs in Europe, well maybe something to do with Superleague. There are way more US owned clubs that could form a new league and even in England alone, but when you look at some of the names AC Milan, Roma, Villa, Atalanta, Leeds Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd, Nancy, Red Star, Venezia, Palace, Fiorentina and Genoa. Then throw in clubs who want a Superleague. inter Milan, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Athletico Madrid, PSG, Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Napoli and Juventus. Watch this space.
    Turkey Again
    Turkish football resumed on Tuesday after the punch incident. A game was then abandoned due to one club President bringing his players off because of a ref decision he disagreed with. Turkish football is a joke.
     
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    The other big footy question this week is are you with Piers Morgan and think the BBC woke SPotY is a joke giving it to a woman who has done nothing or won anything.

    Last week Joey Barton upset the wokerati at the BBC by saying women shouldn’t commentate or do punditry on men’s football.

    Think I know where Olof is on these issues and so am I
     
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  3. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    Forest made a mistake sacking Cooper. They won't go down this season either way because of how bad Burnley, Sheff Utd and Luton are. Forest owner deserves relegation and a financial hit.

    Dealing with Galatasaray is a non starter for me. The way that club acted throughout that whole episode is unforgiveable. I wouldn't be comfortable with money from the Leeds fans pockets finding it's way in to their coffers. **** that and **** them and anyone connected to them.

    The right playmaker would be nice but it has to be right. No point getting someone of similar ability to Poveda just because we can get him. A left back, centre back and goalkeeper should be the areas we look to strengthen. It's pretty easy to see where we struggle if you watch (and understand) the games. I've said all season that Rutter and Piroe need switching but Farke said we were not to mention it again and some fans seem to have swallowed that and refuse to question it because Daniel told them not to. Its ****ing weird.

    Wober can **** off the rat. Aaronson can go on gardening leave or maybe put him on steroids for 6 months and send him to the gym.

    European super league? Let them get on with it if they want. It's not something that interests me and I wouldn't watch the thing. I'll just carry on watching and supporting Leeds regardless.
     
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    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    I think it was a weak year for SPOTY to be fair. None of the shortlist really stood out.

    I'm OK with women commentators and pundits as long as they understand the game. The two that are half decent at it are Michelle Owen and the excellent Emma Hayes. Emma Hayes is better than most male pundits. I've no time for the rest of them.
     
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    It would be interesting to see if we're in the playoffs, how many of the exiles will be talking their way back into Leeds for next season. I suspect quite a few
     
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    Question.

    When do these loaned out players finish their loans? Suppose the question is can we call upon them if we had to play games in the play offs?
     
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    Why would we?
     
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    Lucy is one of the best and have no problem with her either, but like say besides those 3 the rest grate on me and know nothing. They know about a different type of football that needs no power, speed, athleticism or skills and should be played on a smaller pitch with smaller goals as the lady keepers look like slow motion divers getting nowhere near ….
     
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    Injuries?

    Strengthen the bench?

    Dunno. Just a question really.
     
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    At least you can see them move if it's either side of them, have you watched the Leeds Utd keeper recently. i think the word is motionless <laugh>
     
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    nope we can't as except in special circumstances, their player registration can only be transferred inside one of the two approved transfer windows. Given that the summer transfer window doesn't open until after the play offs are completed means they would not be available for selection, even if they returned to the club one day after the January transfer window closed
     
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    You are correct Doc:emoticon-0148-yes::emoticon-0117-talki
     
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    The 6 picked were a joke, the public actually voted for the winner
     
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    I see Phil Hay is now saying Cooper, Ayling and Dallas will not be getting new contracts so will leave in the summer. My question is why wait, they wont play much, don’t add much, let them leave next month and get now clubs. Get them off the wages and use it for players we will use
     
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    Cheers mate.
     
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    Why wait ?, probably because they are under contract and have very little resale value. Even if we release them in January, we would still have to pay up their contracts, so how much would we actually save in reality. Instead of paying them monthly for 6 months, we pay out a lump sum equivalent to 4 months of their salary in January. If we need that saving to sign new players, then our financials are a lot more precarious that most of us consider

    Say Lincoln City decide to come in for Ayling and the club agrees he can go for free. Lincoln say we can only pay 25% of your present salary, which means either Ayling decides to see out the rest of his contract with us or we end up having to pay the difference between his earnings with Lincoln and ourselves.
     
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    Aski where did I say sell them. I would allow them to sort out a new club and there would be countless willing to take Ayling and Cooper from the Championship or SPL. Dallas would still be able to get his ducks in a row especially as he is back on the grass. Try not to put words in my mouth…. I am saying they are and have been useless for us this season let them go and save wages
     
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    Sigh
     
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    Sigh as much as you want mate but time to face some truths. Ayling and Cooper should have been upgraded 2 summers ago and were part of the problem last season getting us relegated. On top of both being part of that dire defence we have injuries and suspensions and the odd penalty given away. Dalls has now been out for 2 years and yes they are all legends and should never be forgotten for the part they played in promotion. But they are and have been finished at the top level. My opinion
     
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