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Science - It's life Jim but not as we know it...

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  1. brb

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    I always look at life like this, you cut your nails, you cut your hair, you lose your teeth, you lose the dead skin on a daily basis, we all eventually just go back to dust, afterall we miss nothing we have shed off our body so far through ageing.
     
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    Yes and those dead cells that we shed were once as much a part of us as the parts that remain. When we're dead all our cells basically become like the dead cells that we shed. So if our dead brain goes to heaven, why not the rest of our cast off cells?
     
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    And if all life forms go to heaven... A house fly lives between 15 and 30 days... So if I did the maths correct we live more than 1000 times as long as a house fly.

    So if a 1000 generations of houseflies live in your lifetime... That means if you have 2 flies in your house today, your house in heaven will probably have 2000 flies in it.
     
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    depends what heaven is, I don't believe our body as we know it goes to heaven, unless we are talking in a spiritual sense, our bodies are only human compounds, by that I mean organic matter that becomes absorbed back into the life cycle of our planet. The only way that changes is if there is parallel life, but as it stands that is just scientific fantasy. Everything is either bigger than us as specs of dust can ever imagine or life is as simple as it seems and we return to dust (or whatever other matter term you want to use), but the latter would be disheartening, because it raises that ugly question again, what's it all about, or more simply, why?
     
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    Begs the question of whether we crap in heaven. Damn shame if you can't ever have the warm buzzing feeling again of easing out a chunky half pounder. :emoticon-0143-smirk
     
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    as per that earlier comment, it depends what heaven is?

    I've never had imagination or fantasies towards what would constitute heaven. If heaven is the afterlife, how is that possible, because we are only organic matter that returns to the soil. People often express the wonders of nature, but nature in reality is extremely destructive it's beauty only comes from a particular stage of the life cycle, before it destroys itself again. In trillions of years, what we know now, will not exist, but even worse there will be no trace that we or anything ever existed. For all we know a similar environment that we are in now could have been destroyed before, we only measure time from the supposed big bang or time from the existance of our planet or solar system - so what is this heaven that people talk of, where does this fit in the timescale? Why do we speak highly of nature when everything in it dies, sometimes that death is brutal, much like a hyena eating a zebra while it's alive and still alive for some considerable time after, because that's the viciousness of nature that humans often choose to ignore. Every single thing destroys something. So much suffering throughout the world, but people talk of heaven, I suppose if we are already in hell, we just seek a better place where the suffering ends and maybe use the term heaven to console ourselves, because the dead can't come back to tell us if such a place exists, other than in our imagination. Happy Christmas btw mate lol.
     
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    Jingle ****ing bellends! <laugh>

    Yuletide felicitations. <bubbly>:wink:
     
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    If I can't have a nice crap in heaven, I think I'd rather stay here. I'm happy on earth having nice turds.
     
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    yes it will.
    You won't though.
     
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    Just some fish getting stoned playing hoops
     
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    Fish?
     
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    Yeh bro you see all the water? Fish live in that ****.


    In other news
     
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    I saw this earlier but there's a better one which shows a different angle in the first few seconds taking out the pick up truck...

     
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    You see that truck drive past at the end of the 1st video, lucky escape
     
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    Yeh I spotted that, was worried for a moment he was pegging it out of their so fast he didn't hit something or someone in his panic.
     
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    How a clock measures time and how you perceive it are quite different. As we grow older, it can often feel like time goes by faster and faster. This speeding up of subjective time with age is well documented by psychologists, but there is no consensus on the cause. In a paper published this month, Professor Adrian Bejan presents an argument based on the physics of neural signal processing. He hypothesizes that, over time, the rate at which we process visual information slows down, and this is what makes time ‘speed up’ as we grow older.

    As we age, he argues, the size and complexity of the networks of neurons in our brains increases – electrical signals must traverse greater distances and thus signal processing takes more time. Moreover, ageing causes our nerves to accumulate damage that provides resistance to the flow of electric signals, further slowing processing time. Focusing on visual perception, Bejan posits that slower processing times result in us perceiving fewer ‘frames-per-second’ – more actual time passes between the perception of each new mental image. This is what leads to time passing more rapidly.When we are young, each second of actual time is packed with many more mental images. Like a slow-motion camera that captures thousands of images per second, time appears to pass more slowly.

    As he puts it: “People are often amazed at how much they remember from days that seemed to last forever in their youth. It’s not that their experiences were much deeper or more meaningful, it’s just that they were being processed in rapid fire.”

    Bejan’s argument is intuitive and based on simple principles of physics and biology. As such, it is a compelling explanation for this common phenomenon. However, it is not the only explanation out there, and so a more rigorous experimental approach may be required before this mystery is solved for good.

    https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2019/no-not-just-time-speeds-get-older/
     
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    It's a reasonable hypothesis. It sounds similar to how different creatures experience time. So a fly which moves quicker experiences time in slower motion than we do. It's why when we go to swat it, even when it's just sat still, it's off before you know it because they see our hand coming down slowly even if we think it's fast.

    Conversely an elephant moves slowly but it's thought they experience time as moving faster and that their speed to them is normal.

    At first it may seem this is also about size but then you have insects which move slowly so I'm not sure that's relevant.

    I also appreciate it may be the other way round and that it may be the fly moves quicker because something in their brain enables them to experience time slower, and an elephant's brain experiences time faster so it moves slower.

    I guess it's all relative <whistle>
     
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    Funnily enough I was reading about relative and illusion time ie that the past, present and future are but one (if you believe in that), and somehow I managed to get on to that article which as you can see covers time from a slightly different angle. I think most of us understand in simple terms why time goes faster as we get older, without having to put much thought/theory behind it, but like everything it just opens up more questions that i've not thought of yet to avoid my brain overloading, but just know exist lol - I hadn't really thought of it though from a size perspective, so now that adds to the overload. <laugh>
     
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    Just to add another one on top maybe size playing some part in relation to time is evolutionary. Because if something is slower it would need some other feature to stop it from being hunted and caught easily. Maybe that explains the size? So the fact elephants which experience time quicker, are massive and powerful meaning they're unlikely to be attacked so easily by smaller, faster animals.

    And then I've thought, well what about small creatures that don't move quickly? But they have alternative evolutionary features to prevent being caught so easily such as brightly coloured caterpillars, or camouflage colours, or as it applies to stick insects. So they can experience time quicker, move slower, also without the danger of being killed off.

    Just a thought don't know if it all ties together or not.
     
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