Put your rod away jack, it is getting a little tiresome now mate. Look, I'm all for a decent debate and discussion about the team and have happily had many on here where differences in positions and opinions never actually close very much, yet we usually can recognise WHY the other person is taking the position they are despite disagreeing with it for some reason. You my friend just want to constantly look for opposite positions to take and then poke away constantly to try and get a reaction. You'll have noticed that I've not really responded to many of your posts which have been listed in response to my own, yet you keep digging them up and trying to use them as an excuse to dangle more 'bait' for others to take. I've avoided pointing fingers and accusing you of only being in here as a WUM but it really is clear that that's all you are. I'm guessing you aren't particularly well thought of in your own team's board (suspect the Jacks)? I won't tell you to 'do one' but you really aren't helping your own cause here by constantly trying to stir the pot you know. Outside the playoffs in goal difference alone as we head to Christmas, despite being under an embargo and missing two of our best and most skillful players for the majority of the season... Who'd have thought it eh??? Bloooooooooobirds!!!!
Oh, and I could be wrong (my ageing grey matter does let me down from time to time), but I note the little moniker at the end of your posts... 'enter the dragon'. Something lurking in the back of my brain tells me I have seen that before (and no, I don't mean via Bruce Lee movies), somewhere on the Jack's board, either via Vetch or Dragonphil Jack if memory serves me correct.... as I say, I may be mistaken (apologies to both of them if I am wrong) but if I am right then it is rather conclusive that you are either a) one of the above just having fun wumming via another account, or b) using the moniker to further stir things up which also then points to you being a wum, just here to try an cause trouble/arguments.... Neither paints you in a good light mate.
As a mod, I'm not going to get involved in "poster disputes" any more - been there and done that and got burnt for my trouble. Personally, I couldn't give a flying fck what he posts as long as it doesn't breach the forum rules, but jck is clearly causing some unrest on here. From his posts on this board he applies a simplistic approach to the game stating obvious facts available to everyone. However, deliberate or not, his observations are riddled with innaccuracies. This last post of his is a perfect example. "The winger walks past Wintle leaving Collins to do all the work" - very strange that because although he's clearly not the quickest out there, Wintle operates on the right hand side of midfield and Collins is our left back. If anything, Siopis has been at fault. Siopis is not "doing better" at all from his early season poor opinion of him - in fact he's gone backwards this last 3 games. Meite gets involved and troubles defenders at close quarters going down under challenges - at least he puts the physical effort in whereas Ugbo is anonymous during the game. As result Ugbo puts no pressure on defenders to bring others into play and is very unlikely to fall over in open space unless he trips over a daisy. Everyone has his faults and Bulut is no exception, but to suggest he's the problem at the club and should get sacked is just ludicrous. For me Bulut is certainly not beyond criticism but is probably the best management decision Tan and Dalman have made this past 10 years. Warnock was essential after Slade and then Trollope, but since then it we've stagnated at best. Give Bulut some financial support and a chance to use it wisely - if he fck's it up then, we can applaud jck's vision.
I'd spotted the Wintle / Collins point, but couldn't be @r$Ed replying. I think the best thing for all concerned is to just ignore him. He'll get bored posting to himself soon enough. On the Bulut appointment, I don't think he's as good as HE thinks he is. Definitely a step in the right direction. As well as some players needing to step up, he needs a bit of improvement as well. Some duff decisions and a bit too much fingerpointing. Alex Fergusson he isn't in terms of a hairdryer. He's done far more good than harm though, so credit for that, but still needs to up his game.
That's good point about Bulut. He's not one to admit his mistakes - they're always aimed at his players rather than at his sometimes dubious decisions. Despite what many have advocated, he sees this as more of a revolution than evolution. Some might disagree with that approach and advocate a less confrontational style of management but something needed doing. If he gets it right in January and his player desires are backed by Tan's money, competing at the top of the league rather than struggling at the bottom will be a very good start to his tenure. Where we go from then is anyone's guess but at least Bulut won't be able to blame players because they'll be his choices rather than what he was given.
The revolution does worry me in terms of boom and bust. I've said it before. what happens if we tail off and Bulut gets the bullet? Another revolution? There have been too many inn recent years. Also, if Erol does make strides forward, how does he add further evolution to his revolution? I've seen it too often in business. A new broom, a big step forward, then stagnation or worse.
If my auntie had balls...................etc. Get the fear factor, but for one, I've been hiding behind the sofa for too long. This club should be capable of holding it's own in the top league. If clubs like Brentford, Crystal Palace and Bournemouth can do it, so should we. We deserve nothing on a plate - it'll have to be earned.
The only way we'll do that is with a long term strategy. The 'smaller clubs' who are cutting it have solid scouting and or academy to hold costs down. The Swans did it for a few seasons before wages got out of hand. The clubs currently at the bottom of the Premier League either got lucky or had someone like Colin as a bit of a one trick pony. They can't make the next step. It's where we'd be again if we got promoted. I fear we'd be building on sand. Don't get me wrong, I'd take it if it came along, but until we get the academy, scouting and footballing strategy / philosophy sorted I don't think we'd sustain top flight football.
Agree entirely with this, and the answer lies in the boardroom. Until the club has football visionaries at corporate level to match business acumen we’ll never emulate the likes of Brighton & Brentford.
Accept the premise that the club needs far better sporting guidance to give a better chance of sustaining a presence in the Premier League. What I can't come to terms with is the apparent lack of ambition amongst some fans who want the chicken before the egg because of the fear of failure. This is simple. At present, there are probably 3 sides who possess that sort of structure - and they are the ones that came down from the Prem last season. If you exclude the majority of the lower half of this league who will be pleased just to stay up (like us last season), that doesn't stop the other dozen or so wannabe clubs from higher aspirations whatever the future holds. You won't find many, if any, expecting their club to turn into a Man City overnight, but at least they'll have to opportunity to play against them and take their chances - and also a guaranteed £200M or so to go with it whatever happens. Bring it on!
Good points all round and well made. All show the positive side of this forum. A good range of opinions but with the ability to discuss openly and honestly. Surely that is what this is all about?
Now if Sunderland fail to beat Leeds and Brom don't win at Rotherham tonight, we can help get Roons his P45 tomorrow and move into 5th............. ...............but are we ready for it? ............
We're ready for 5th. Not sure we're ready for the big boys though. I'd take it. Ready or not. Think it would hamper our development as well.
Not really, the majority are about me, it is not about me it is about the team we all support, if I cannot say which players I think are good and which are bad what kind of forum is this? No one agrees with me and I am happy with that but I will stand by what I say. If Bullut loses the next game it will be 2 wins in 8 and to say he is the best manager we had recently is in my view beyond belief. It matters not where a player plays they are never in that position, Wintle is hardly ever in midfield. Anyway if Bullut loses the next game he might not last another game. I have no faith in a forum that constantly attacks one members opinion, if you do not like me then ban me I care not but then you can talk about what pubs you go to. .I rely on Tan to sack him if he loses one more game I am fed up with his selections and subs.
Here is my honest opinion of the game last night. Despite everything I cannot say one player did not try, they all tried hard. Every player lost the ball and made poor passes and poor decisions but they did not do that deliberately. The bounce of the ball favoured them not us for the goal. Bullut threw attacking players on late to try and salvage a point. I am critical of Meitie but I want him to start scoring goals if only for his own sake. No matter what I think I am right behind all the players on the pitch. All I ask of Romeo is do not cost us a goal and he did no do that so I was happy with him. We can reach the play-offs and win that but not if the manager only wins 2 games in the last 7. I am not happy wasting a season in the championship, I want promotion and so does Tan and so should everyone else.Compare my two posts to someone who cant say two words with swearing which has nothing to do with football.
