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  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    This woman what a speech-Took it to them wefs infiltrating the @Conservativeparty

     
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    Didn't disagree with anything she said about these economic migrant cheats coming here illegally.

    Wish they'd also concentrate on the net 745,000 that came here legally.
    We have many 1,000's coming in yet we can't fill job vacancies.
    How does that work ?
     
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    A very rousing and comprehensive round up of the chaos we are in and heading deeper in if something doesnt stop.

    At present after the political movements / speech's / etc's so far of this week the "barometer" to indicate is it going in the right direction has moved up. Stock market shows a consolidation of values placed upon it by the "money men" who look to the future before risking their cash!
     
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    They don’t want to work-they want milk and honey at our expense.
     
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    see where shes coming from, but still a bit off rats and sinking ships,
     
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    The Tories are already sunk, Sunak is sunk as a Leader, and Braverman has drawn her line, she is displaying her non negotiable Conservative values.

    There is a schism in the Tory party, and with what is occurring on the right with reform, and the inevitable return of Farage to politics she is redefining and patching her ship to put supporters, and passengers on a right wing Conservative vessel.
     
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    It’s much more nuanced than that, I’m sure there are some which fit into that category, always has been, and probably always will be. To suggest they all are is ridiculous.
     
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  8. realred1952

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    1 person arrives "legally" and gets a wage and a job the family over and straight off ?get income support and many other financial helps? without having paid in !!! or having a job ?

    note for instance say "son comes over for a job" or daughter to work in care! a lot not trained or speak english ! they bring mum and dad maybe grandparents so have 5 living here!
     
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    Labour are playing "wrecking ball politics" stirring up the she it with GE around the corner, accusing Tories of chaos when they are indeed being anything but what the majority of this country wants. .. helpful and curing the problem. When you take a breath and analyse the pro's and con's the flooding us of excessive outgoings leads to slower growth and a decrease in inflation so everything Labour can throw on the fire they are doing! GE comes along they lose, its a tough she it Tories get out of that one! GE they win by a whisker and its OK ..IMF we need £40bn loan ... but then have the costs of £10m a day to house illegals, need to fund the union pay rises £2bn pa .. uk money men take their money off shore so massive loss of tax and investment in Private sector evaporates so need another IMF loan ... some to pay off previous one and prop up economy so ........... 1 year in [ maybe partway through year 2 ] ... loans etc approach last Labour.gov and the £trn looms................

    The current situation is costing us around £150 pa however my connections to friends in hospitals "observe" that the growing number of "non paying in to NI FUND" people needing treatment is growing by the day! One stated, is usually the older and females that need treatment more so than males! But an awful lot of children also flood the system with ailments not worthy of hospitalization! from time to time.
     
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    I will strongly disagree check the stats of how many muslins are in work in the uk 1 in 5
    So you me and every other sucker is paying for them.
     
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    Reform will seriously challenge Tory seats at the next election.
    Our country and very culture have been put at risk by weak leadership. People have had enough.
    My prediction is that after Starmer has continued to ruin the country for 5 years, just like the Tories have for the last 13, the Reform party with several proper Conservatives on board will gain power and start to repair 18 years of neglect
     
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    I get involved quite heavy with what people are wanting Labour and Conservative voters are moving to reform in masses could be very interesting next year.Candidates in every seat by Reform.

    Holland MK11 Tory and Labour are twitching big time.
     
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    It will be almost inevitable in time

    You only have to look at what's happened and is still happening in Sweden with ongoing gang warfare. Is it the Swedes causing it ? No.

    The French have also had enough of migrants including lots of killings of innocent people, ditto Italy, ditto Holland, and the whole border free area of Europe is putting up checkpoints, and passing laws to protect themselves and keep undesirables out.

    Our inner cities are ghettos,

    Ireland will follow. People over there aren't being listened to there either just like us, but as per usual the media labels them right wing when all they want is to protect and look after their own, the same as the silent majority want here.

    Poland is the opposite of us due to their stance on immigrants, both legal and illegal. They have safe and pleasant towns and cities, inhabited by Poles and their economy will soon overtake ours.
    They've kept the migrants out and that has stopped excessive crime and the watering down of the Polish nation and its culture.
     
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    first bit correct and second part wrong!


    without a big influx of polish people during the last war [ [WW2] we would have struggled!
     
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    The Tories have been awful over lots of things especially Law & Order, migration, keeping the Civil Service in check, and more recently their handling of the economy, while they splurge tax payers money on anything and everything, except the British people and their needs.

    They simply don't listen.

    We put illegals in top class accommodation while British people sleep rough. The Home Office cant account for the whereabouts of 17,000 illegals, 10.500 foreign nationals are in our prisons, 41,000 are under surveillance for terrorist activities, minor shoplifting is basically encouraged, and the Police turn a blind eye to people calling for Jihad on our streets and climbing over and desecrating our war memorials, while those who are guilty of it laugh at them from behind their religion knowing they won't be touched. How can any of that be right ?

    When we needed strong leadership and a no nonsense approach to the short list of major items above that really pee off hard working Brits, we've been given a bunch of indecisive softies from Cameron, Boris, and Sunak.
    And Starmer, if he can ever make his mind up about anything, will be wetter than a Haddocks bathing costume as well.

    The Tories deserve the political oblivion they will surely get at the next election.
     
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    Nick Robinson .... never really liked his aggressive personal attacking attitude ... and 10/10 to Suella Braverman for not taking the bait and throughout this interview maintained a real composure ... body language and prompting machine language to interrupt at key points [ this takes away from the listener an answer that they / he doesnt want to put over... stooping to personal attacks also a sign of defeat ..............
     
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    Angelic, the real picture is the result, not how they got there. To us the general public, we get all the bad aspects as that is what sells media, stirring up things daily, pairing one against another, aids and is a means to mean media has something to write/ broadcast about.


    note snippets from past few years
    2010 country on the cusp of bankruptcy! [ debt = £trn's ] borrowing out of control ............. = AUSTERITY needed and delivered!!!!!!!!
    2019 country in the black have very little borrowing a healthy economy and in those first 9 years have maintained low inflation and interest rates. stockmarket and investment soaring
    2020 Covid .. = disaster ..... stockmarket = disaster no investment indeed the opposite ....
    2021 Blame on Covid and handling and a shattered economy panic and chaos £000,000's started being recovered from the fraudulent! stock market begins recovery......
    2022 Ukraine war ... stock market = disaster as it drops to almost Covid levels INFLATION world wide starts to increase ... sharply
    2023 INFLATION a major problem as strikes and wage demands of 10% + accelerate it..............
    NOW ............ Actions taken by the encumbent .gov begin to show as inflation drops with help from BOE keeping rates higher ........................ [ remember back! at one time, well a couple times you could get 10% on your savings but your mortgage rate was about 12-15% BOE rate ? was around 5 -7% ]
     
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    I appreciate that we've had unprecedented things in the last 3-5 years from Brexit, Covid (although handing out billions of pounds of tax payers money to friends and relatives for PPE contracts was a huge mistake that needs to be properly investigated, and people charged with fraud if found guilty) and the war in Ukraine, and no Government would have done much different under the circumstances, but other things that I also highlighted have been handled appallingly and they could have been largely avoided.
     
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    Amen on the button.
     
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    it was not billions and pretty much a one off thing! in the early days first 3 months the stock of appropriate PPE world wide was less than half what was needed ... the fact that we bought masses, loads of stuff not 100% for the job could be deemed as "not clever" or indeed as clever as needed to be in the circumstances!
    Hindsight at a later date stated that although not 100% stuff for the job anything was better than nothing!
    SCIENCE later stated that face masks were more effective in protecting the third party as opposed to the wearer! they stopped the wearers germs being spread ...hence the rule "use and dispose in a short time! " Even .gov sites had diagrams of using your under wear [ washed first of course ] cut up and used as masks, internet was full of sites selling material/ homemade masks etc!

    problem here is that it is a generalization ..of problems. Agree some were handled badly, but the greater problem in the first place was influential to a greater degree on each. Besides that, instead of "ALL" getting together [ individuals/ parties ] to sort it, half wanted to gain political or personal points from it! so the other half struggled to fight the problem and those that interfered!
     
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