Lets look and see at match day 19 2016/17 5th 10 point deficit 39 points 2017/18 1st with 13 point lead 55 points 2018/19 - 3rd after match 19 with 7 point deficit 44 points 2019/20 -3rd with 17 point deficit 38 points 2020/21 - 1st with 1 point lead 41 2021/22 - 1st 3 point lead 47 2022/23 - 2nd 2 point deficit 45 now at end of seasons 2016/17 3rd 78 points (39 points gained) 2017/18 1st 100 points (45) 2018/19 1st 98 points (54) 2019/20 2nd 81 points (43) 2020/21 - 1st 86 points (45) 2021/22 - 1st 93 points (46) 2022/23 - 1st 89points (44) It seems to me that they are pretty consistent over the season and its really 2018/19 where we had the race to force their very best out of them where they massively exceeded the first half of the season. Even arsenal didn't push them last year. 45points first half, 44 second half. They could have done more if required i'm sure.
Wasn’t meaning points per say Was thinking more of how they play They generally always have a small blip somewhere but only one One and a half max Probably down as you have alluded to on who is pushing them
You'll find the odd result but not usually a poor run of 3 or 4 games If you look at 2018/19 you can find what approximates this in December where they lose to Chelsea away, beat everton and then lose to leicester and palace. they then win 18 out of 19. in 21/22 they actually lose on the opening day then match day 10 lose at home to palace and don't lose again until matchday 26 when spurs beat them. they actually drew more second half than first but its quite a consistent season. I Just think its better to call them a steam roller throughout rather than a rocket being lit off on the run in. They have chased on the two occasions but when we got going in 19/20 they were too far back to catch up due to Laporte injury. They've done both lead form the front and played catch up in other words.
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To be fair to city they’re massively missing kdb. Been out so long sort of forget about him but he’s the best player in the league and almost gives Haaland a goal a game.
They are missing him more becasue they sold Gundogan at the same time he is missing, two big players for them.
How's that work when they have led in most of these drawn games and just stopped attacking with intent in every one? they seem just fine up to the point of killing games off to me. passing it to death or dicking around as I call it was a klopp disease, its now firmly in place at city
You probably all discussed this week's ago and I'm late to the party but.. Everton punishment: I think fair. And not too harsh. Their overspending almost certainly saved them from going down. 10pt deduction would have scuppered them last season. This season it is irrelevant. It won't be what keeps them out of Europe and it won't make them get relegated. They'll just finish lower in the bottom half and get a little less prize money as a result. City, I hope get relegated and every domestic trophy removed from them. I don't want those trophies retroactively handed to anyone else. I don't want us to get a trophy instead from when we finished second. A retroactively given trophy is of no value. City already got to celebrate those wins. They're of no value now.
This is pretty much exactly how I see the two situations. Just to add regarding city, it's ironic that we didn't even get to celebrate the league title that we did win so having another couple handed to us (not that it wil happen) would feel similar in a way.
My view on Everton is the PL bent over backwards to not penalise them hence accepting Evertons fantastical covid loss offset and i think the pressure was on to actually face up to it so when they admitted to lying about debt repayments they got done . The 10 pts seems harsh but it isn't really as they clearly should have also been penalised last year but the PL bottled it .
I have said previously that the sanctions should be laid out so that clubs know what to expect if they break the rules. A spokesperson for the independent commission set-up (?) said that sanctions aren't written down precisely so that it will act as a deterrent if clubs don't know what the punishment will be. Having read that, I can see value in taking that approach.
To me that just gives clubs massive incentive to appeal anything if not written down. What would act as a deterrent is making the points deduction worthwhile. How about what ever % over the threshold you are, that % of your points is deducted (rounded up to nearest point).
Well there is no threshold. 104mil is a breach that an irresponsible owner can make up. 105 is a serious breach they cannot. what kind of rule is that? sustainable = 0 loss. not -104 with subs. Everton fan line is 10 points for 25mil. absolutely wrong.
I don't think there's anything written down about how financial sanctions are worked out. It all seems very arbitrary but nobody ever appeals a financial sanction. As I said, I was of the opinion that specific sanctions should be written down and I'm still erring on that side. I do, however, now see some value in not providing a sanction list. I think that clubs could be willing to flout rules or even feel encouraged to go to a certain limit if they knew that they could handle the punishment.
Arteta doing his best to ruin arsenal by continuing to play raya. Not that ramsdale js a particularly good keeper but he’s brought someone no better and now ****ed them both over by putting immense pressure on both of them. Wonder if he’ll stick to his word and sub raya off this second half
