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Match Day Thread Millwall FC v Sunderland AFC – Saturday 2nd December 2023 - KO 15:00

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Nov 30, 2023.

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Your Prediction:

Poll closed Dec 2, 2023.
  1. Home win

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  2. Away win

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  3. Draw

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  1. LBW

    LBW Well-Known Member

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    We don’t need a new manager, we need an experienced centre forward it’s that plain and simple. Put an experienced centre forward in that side and we are flying, we all know there’s plenty of money in the pot after the RS sale so let’s see what KS does with it in January. Hopefully we can keep on the coat tales of the top 6 until then. Burstow for me should be sent back in January if possible, I would rather persevere with our own youngsters getting minutes.
     
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  2. Mackem74

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    Generally Mogga has done well with young players and generally we've played some good stuff. Controlled the majority of games we've played barring the odd spell. He's played Rigg, he's given jobe loads of time, mayemda is getting minutes for first time in this country, same with hemir, anouche, bennette,.seelt etc etc. It's not easy for him, it's pretty obvious the most effective players we have are ones with experience of English football. But there isn't much experience behind them and it's going to take time.
     
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  3. Jack Ford

    Jack Ford Well-Known Member

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    We overperformed last season and most, i think will agree, that to make the play offs was a massive achievement and surprising.

    Rightly so expectation levels are high this season

    Im a realist, OK Im disappointed with recent results but not surprised

    Maybe emotions are running high with our fanbase because of last seasons overachievements.

    Patience is a virtue

    Yet another managerial change which is now becoming nearly an annual event will do my head in

    Anyhow, who will we get ? Sack him after a year, same old same old

    Pissed off
    HTFL
     
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  4. Bigmackem

    Bigmackem Well-Known Member

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    Nice to see Roberts in his correct position back on the wing and creating opportunities, Pritchard is a lot better number ten than Adil and links the play a lot better and the second half at least we carried a threat . Things were not back to NORMAL but we salvaged a point and we did not lose the game we could easily have , the changes made strengthened the resolve of the team and might be the way to get us moving in the right direction - we all hope !
     
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  5. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    sacking Johnson for Neil paid off like.

    I trust the club to do the right thing. Whether that’s sack or no sack
     
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  6. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    100% correct for me. Timing is everything. Bit so is a match to style and ambition. McKenna has matched perfectly to Ipswich. Up until the last 3 games I think Mowbray has matched us perfectly. I see no reason why he cant turn this round, honestly I cant, and I genuinely see no reason for a new head coach. Now of course if the club could get Potter I would want that, but realistically that seems unlikely unless KLD is willing to spend on this post and arguably he hasnt so far. 3 points off top 6 is all we are, in a supposedly tougher league than last yeat when we ran hot after christmas. I would personally stick in and graft as a club, we have some decent people coaching in my opinion.
     
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  7. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    You're a pragmatic fella.

    Can I ask, what point to you see in keeping Tone when he simply isn't going to be here next year? We are not going up. Won't get relegated, so why not give a new man a 6 month head start, to have a proper go next year.

    Tone either leaves at Christmas or June. But he will leave
     
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  8. vic9

    vic9 Well-Known Member

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    Well said marra, very good analysis of our current front 4
     
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  9. TopCat.

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    Feels that way. It's a shame, I really want to have a manager for 5 years and see the squad grow, but will admit Mowbray isn't that man. Roy Keane was the last manager to reach 100 games. That says a lot
     
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  10. Mackem74

    Mackem74 Well-Known Member

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    He's a good coach, will develop the young players and get them ready for a big push next season
     
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  11. TopCat.

    TopCat. Well-Known Member

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    As Gary Neville said. You don't have to be a chef in order to then be a food critic
     
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  12. ROKER PARK

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    Apart from the chuck them all on approach, have we tried to play with 2 up top? Old fashioned it may be but I'd like to see Rusyn play off a bigger striker.
     
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  13. TopCat.

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    It's not a popular opinion these days, but a diag from the full back to the tall striker who flicks on to the fox in the box can work quite well.
     
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  14. RTB

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    Unofficial highlights:

     
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  15. Prehab26

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    Rather give that to someone who is going to be here next year
     
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  16. TopCat.

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    Grrrr, Am really torn on this. I get what you are saying, but am sick and tired of changing manager every year
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    He's not only a good coach, he has good people alongside him who trust him and vice versa ...

    ... changing the manager means massive upheaval at a club that's making every player improve in one way or another.

    In the meantime, how desperate is Burstow to be a top player?
     
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  18. Sol97uk

    Sol97uk Well-Known Member

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    I would like to see one them played with dack or Pritchard behind them for a run of games from the start. That bit of experience there could help pick out their runs and create more chances. Remember a cup game early in the season dack telling bennette where to run. Things like that will help young inexperienced players.

    Options are there in the squad, they just need to be used I guess.
     
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  19. Sour Patch

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    Would love to see something like this

    Patto
    Seelt Ballard O'Nien
    Huggins Neil Ekwah Clarke
    Pritchard
    Rusyn Mayenda

    Think it provides us with a bit more defensive solidity without taking too much away from the attacking side of things. Electric pace up front with Pritch picking out the runs. Clarke can still play as high as he usually does because of O'Nien covering the space behind. Possibly harsh on Hume but I prefer Huggins as an attacker and would like Seelt for his height.
     
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  20. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    At this present moment, I don’t think there is any competition. Huggins is our best fit full back by a country mile for me! If all were fit, he’d start with Cirkin on the other side. Said when I saw him play before injury that he looks a cracking player, opinion hasn’t changed at all!!
     
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